TREMPER

The bus stop ruined the best straight-a-way and passing zone at the track. It broke up the rhythm of the track. The accidents occurred not because of the track but mechanical failures. Both incidents occurred when a wheel came off the cars..not sure a slower speed induced by the bus stop would help with those issues.
Instead of a smooth transition into Turn#5 , we subject the car's suspension to a quick right, then left the a right..then move into Turn #5. At first the exit of the bus stop was too sharp and many cars hit the guard rail upon exit , driver's left..
I agree... the "fill in" of the dip at Road Atlanta and the bus stop at the Glen took character away from these two great tracks. I am so glad I got to run both facilities as the were original designed.

ProCoach

T&T Racing

[QUOTE=TREMPER;14156312]The bus stop ruined the best straight-a-way and passing zone at the track. It broke up the rhythm of the track.

Prior to the the track modification to the bus stop there was the Jody Scheckter chicane after corner 2. The chicane was installed in the mid 1970's to slow the F1 cars. I believe it was removed in the 1980's. I attended the 1974 Grand Prix and I believe the chicane was installed in 1975.

The chicane was probably a 40 mph affair

sbelles

I agree, turn 5 is lost but the bus stop is still a lot of fun at the limit and 5 is has a little breather before diving in for the boot. The whole section is still a lot of fun.

chartersb

The chicane in the esses was added after the Francois Cevert crash. New York State gave ISC a multi-bazillion $$$ grant for the repave and update. The entire Finger Lakes region benefits from the track and vice versa. It's been an awesome place to race, not as fast as Mosport but one of the best. Agree w/ Tremper about the "dip" then the bridge at Road Atlanta. At Mosport, the old "hump" at the end of the back straight on the entry to T8 was another legendary pucker point that's gone.

gbuff

nononononononononononononononoNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

No.

gbuff

Was at Mosport yesterday--omiGOD it's SO fast, even in my goofy little Mini

I recall years ago going out with an instructor and hitting my head on the roof of his car when we went over that hump.....

Gary

Jake951

Here's a great in-car video from the 1978 F1 race at the Glen with Didier Pironi driving:


You can see the chicane after turn 2 and the absence of the bus stop. It still looks very much like the Glen today except for the absence of the catch fences and viewing stands in places along the track.

ProCoach

From the series "Lap of the Gods"

Great stuff!

RickBetterley

I can't imagine blasting down the back straight at Watkins Glen into the Carousel. What was that like?

ProCoach

It was fun!

The rise was enough that, before the crest, you couldn't see where you were going. In a fast car, it was not an easy thing...

In a slow car, it was just as fun!

moveswiftly

Not to bring this thread back from the dead but wanted some feedback on my recent PB @ WGI:


My comments:

Turn 1: Too slow
Turn 2 to top of esses - Need to commit to full throttle earlier and more consistently
Bus Stop: Should've committed to throttle earlier, also no need to go over rumble so aggressively
Outer Loop: I felt fine, tires felt like they wanted to slide here
Turn 6: Shouldn't have jumped the curb - cost me .5 second
Turn 10: Need to lift later and get back on throttle later

Thundermoose

The phone/timer seems to be in a bad spot. You're turning your head too often IMO to look at it. I can see my AIM without turning my head and I typically only look at it after start/finish.

will968

Stop looking at your timer! That's good for about 2 seconds and avoiding a costly wreck.
Not too bad but I have a few things to consider:
Stay off the inner and exit curbing in the Bus Stop - it upsets your car.
Too wide in turn 9. Get in there tighter after braking.
In that car you should tap the brakes at 10 instead of lifting for so long. You’re also not using all the track at exit because you're not getting the most out of it.
Where are your eyes for 11?

moveswiftly

So true. I replayed this video today and thought to myself - I need to stop looking at the timer and just focus on the driving and look at start / finish.

Turn 11 - my eyes are at the I <3 NY sign.