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Old 04-01-2013 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 911 Crazy
What happened to Karen???
She's outside playing with the dogs...
Old 04-01-2013 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbill_fl
pics????
yes! still waiting on the pics
Old 04-01-2013 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dacbap
yes! still waiting on the pics
Old 04-01-2013 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LC MotorSports
Karen, please contact me directly... and we can talk off line. I am the current president of the CNY region and held the Safety Chair position for the 3 years prior.
cheers,
Chris
Why talk off-line...I think there are a number of people on this thread that are interesting in finding out more about this "new rule"?
Old 04-01-2013 | 11:44 AM
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I resemble those Chicago remarks Not that I totally agree with the groupings and requirements, but I can give some insight:

There are four run groups - green, yellow, white and black (least experienced to most experienced). The thinking is as you progress and move up in run groups you are ringing more and more out of the car and therefore require more safety equipment. I guess the thought is some newbie leaves the track at moderate speed and the stock equipment will protect him while someone more experienced, even in a low powered car, could leave the track at much higher speeds and having the extra protection of roll bar, seats harnesses is needed.

Of course, as pointed out, inexperienced drivers can and do show up with TT's, GT2's and GT3's. IMO, that is one of the reasons we have the instructor program to rein them in and keep them safe while they learn to handle their car in the inexperienced run groups. Also, do not forget that in the inexperienced groups even if you have a very fast car there are plenty of slower cars that will keep you from blasting around the course - conga line anyone? On the flip side, a very experienced driver with a stock car will be required to run in one of the "slower" groups. This is a common occurrence and, even though the experienced driver could run circles around most in that group, traffic becomes the issue as I stated earlier.

Are Chicago regions requirements perfect, no, but the rules are there to try and keep everyone safe. Which is the ultimate goal, right?

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Old 04-01-2013 | 11:48 AM
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is it is not a national rule
Old 04-01-2013 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by LC MotorSports
is it is not a national rule
It appears to me that National only provides minimum requirements and I do not see anything about when a harness/roll bar, seats and harnesses become mandatory for a particular group/car/etc.
Old 04-01-2013 | 12:58 PM
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IF (big IF) you add a cage, then I would think it wise to add seats and 6 point harnesses. (at a minimum)

but you have not even done 1 DE, yet.......RIGHT?

Why not do a few events then start spending $$$...

+ I would REALLY like to see some pics (of the car and how its setup).





-but feel free to add your Cancun spring break photos!
Old 04-01-2013 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by crooster
I had something to say but Veloce Raptor's avatar makes me forget...
Good thing you didn't see the ones I offered.............
Originally Posted by 911 Crazy
What happened to Karen???
Waiting on a return email............
Originally Posted by LC MotorSports
Got lost in the maze...

Originally Posted by Gary R.
She's outside playing with the dogs...
You know me toooooooo well.....I have some new ones coming
Originally Posted by dacbap
yes! still waiting on the pics
Will have to post some when they get here



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