Tuscany964

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J richard

Missed this one but hell of a lot of car for the money, more out there like this...put the same money in this you'd put in a 996 an it would be a fast track car...

https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-marketplace-old/688421-1991-c2-coupe-gp-white.html

mjdavis

Thanks for the info, may have to give it a shot.

sqweak

Thanks for the leads! that 99 would definitely do the trick, with room left to do some longevity & safety prep.

Thanks for the details! As an aside, I'm no expert on tires but isn't stock 235 on 8.5 and 295-305 on 11? Your setup sounds wide up front and skinny in the back for those widths, is there a performance reason for that?

My wish list is much the same as yours. I do not currently know how to do the work myself, but I'd be more than happy to learn on a car that lent itself to that. Does the 996 complicate too much to learn to wrench on it? What did you end up going with? I see it there in your avatar, but I'm not adept at visually identifying the variants that came before the 993.

Indeed, this one would have been quite attractive. I have both the luxury and the curse of starting my search now, a few months before I'm really ready to pull the trigger. It's great because it forces me to search and deliberate, but also a pain if the right one comes and goes and I don't have my ducks lined up yet.

GTgears

True. But I also live in a world where if I can't ball it up and walk away from it without bankrupting myself, I don't get on the track at all. The second I leave the pits, if I don't consider it a disposable vehicle, I've got no business being out there in the first place.

I think this is why you see so many GT3 and 997TT owners who have E30s, Miatas, and Boxsters as racecars. While a dual purpose DE/street rod is a slightly different beast, I still personally treat it the same way.

ajcjr

How many miles can you put on a 996 motor before it grenades or needs replace or can it be rebuilt.

cec3

Good observation - not an ideal setup, but it is the only way I can stay in my current TT class - can't go wider than 275. I went a little wider up front to dial out a bit of push on tight turns (i.e. carousel and keyhole at M-O) - alternatively I could apply a bit less pressure with my right foot or go softer on sways but still just playing around with setup to see what works best.

g-50cab

Mine is a 1974 911s - which the previous owner installed metal flares. I made it into a IROC Tribute car.

This is my 3rd Porsche - the first one was a 1990 C2 Targa that I did nothing on (not even change the oil) then a 1987 Carrera that I ended up coming up through the ranks of DE with - then this car.

It has a 3.6 and 993 Brakes - so it goes pretty good too. But I have to pedal pretty hard to keep up with a 996/GT3 prepped car.

35 years of suspension technology will do that for you.

quickxotica

You just missed mine by a few days. A tad higher than your $25k target, but man it would have been perfect for you:
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...s-aos-x74.html

sqweak

Oh, got it. Thanks for the info!

I saw! (and commented ) Good luck on your Spec911 search & season!

Very cool! I would love to track any of those hotrod ducktail tributes like that but completed ones seem to run out of my budget and I'm not skilled enough to build my own.

tasman

That is one gorgeous 911.

Chris M.

They can be rebuilt and better than when they were new with some aftermarket parts designed to address some of the factory weaknesses. I'm not an expert, but from what I've read based on others' experiences, a remanufactured motor from Porsche is as likely to grenade as one from a junk yard. Or not. I've read about people with Accusump 996s that have grenaded and motors without them that have run well for several seasons.

I do have experience with air cooled motors on track and most seem to fail at the hands of the operator, me included. After blowing mine up, I borrowed a friend's SC motor for a race. It had 7 seasons on it, at about 6 race weekends per season, and was still pulling very well.

Another example is a friend who bought a street 87 911 with about 150K on the original motor. It has been a dedicated track car for over 6 years now, and with 165K it is finally getting rebuilt simply in the interest of getting more power to be competitive with all the other guys that have hot motors. It was still making 205 at the wheels before the tear down. Talk about bulletproof.

g-50cab

this is another option

My buddy Joe took a TON of weight out of his 1987 911. Made for a very fast car with a 3.2

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ild-story.html

Martin S.

Agree, I love this car but they are so damn heavy...they need a serious diet. Get that sun roof out of there. They also need wider wheels, the stock 7" front and 8" rears don't cut it, need at least 8" front, 9" rear.

The 964 motor is good for 250 HP to the rear wheels with headers, sport muffs/straight pipes and a chip. The headers and no heat can be a problem in the winter.

RS America is a little lighter, but no power steering. Good luck with the project...you won't find any RS America cars for 25K, but you can steal a 964 for less than 15K I believe.

Another cool little car, the 88 89 944 Turbo cars.

67King

I'm going to play the role of contrarian and tell you to buy something like a Boxster S and a servicable truck to tow it with so you can make it a dedicated track car, and put a cage in it. You can rent a trailer from U-Haul for about $100 for the weekend, which is a good option if you can stand the ribbing you'll get (math = storage of a trailer $50/mo = $600/year, or same cost as 6 events without buying a trailer).

I'm one of the more paranoid folks about safety, and though I've done it due to a wadded up track car, I don't like driving a street car on the track, and wouldn't count on it as a semi-permanent solution.