What is the fastest slick out there at the moment?
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Sure, there are horses for courses depending on what car you drive but are the Michelins still generally regarded to be above the rest? Seem to have read that some believe the Pirelli is equal or better and a bit cheaper.
Add to this question I'm talking qualifying fastest tyre, not endurance if possible to get opinions on this category.
Add to this question I'm talking qualifying fastest tyre, not endurance if possible to get opinions on this category.
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Any particular models Dave? Didn't think Dunlop had much of a profile (sorry) in the US?
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Michelin is probably the fastest. Expensive and difficult to procure.
Hoosiers are very fast and wide variety of sizes and compounds
Pirelli's are fast, but expensive also.
Toyo's are fast (almost like Hoosiers), priced right, just not a lot of size offerings
Hoosiers are very fast and wide variety of sizes and compounds
Pirelli's are fast, but expensive also.
Toyo's are fast (almost like Hoosiers), priced right, just not a lot of size offerings
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Depends on what car you want to run them on ? It also depends on what you mean by best? best traction, best wear , best cost lots of factors based on what car and the cars set up
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From what I've read in these parts Michelin Cups are very quick but expensive. Pirelli were said to be as fast or faster and a bit cheaper. I got the impression that they were 1-2 seconds quicker than the R80 or R100 from Hoosier. The Hoosiers were quite a bit cheaper, easy to get but did suffer more often from problems. Don't know anything about the Toyo slicks (not talking about the RR version either).
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Yes, I've edited the title. I'm after the fastest slick but it has to last more than 1 lap type of thing. I would expect to get maybe 10-15 heat cycles of say 5 lap duration. This is a rough guide.
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The Michelin Cup slick (325 in back) on the new Cup cars or the GT3 RS is the hottest thing up here. They last about 15 heat cycles but there is a noticeable degradation after five cycles. Pricey though. How fast do you want to go, how much do you want to spend?
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What sort of cost on those Bob? Assuming they're a 19"?
I'm talking 18"s which I should have qualified earlier.
I'm talking 18"s which I should have qualified earlier.
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On a Cup car they will fade much faster than that and after 2 HC you can use it for another 3-5 practice HC but you will see your lap time drop significantly. especially for the front tires. But they are really fast for the first 30-40 minutes of a sprint race. For me it looks like the latest version of these tires was built for only 1 stint of a AMLS race. The previous version was as fast but much more durable.
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In terms of speed, from what I have tested and seen tested first hand:
1. Michelin Blue Cups
2. Yokohama A005 Cup (imsa)
3. Pirelli
4. Hoosier
Michiel blues are the clear speed leader, but the Yoko Cups are a fantastic tire (if you can get them) and I have gotten 15+ HC, but as the Michelin, they loose about 1-3 seconds after the 3rd HC but then stabilize really well until you wear them out completely.
1. Michelin Blue Cups
2. Yokohama A005 Cup (imsa)
3. Pirelli
4. Hoosier
Michiel blues are the clear speed leader, but the Yoko Cups are a fantastic tire (if you can get them) and I have gotten 15+ HC, but as the Michelin, they loose about 1-3 seconds after the 3rd HC but then stabilize really well until you wear them out completely.
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Are the Yoko Cups specific to a rear engine car where they're softer fronts/medium rears?
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http://www.michelinman.com/mediabin/...alouge2011.pdf
The Yoko cups are amazingly fast even at the end of an hour stint. Lots of lap records are at the end of a stint in ALMS.