Converting Slick Sizes to Street Sizes
#1
Converting Slick Sizes to Street Sizes
Hello mates. I have a set of hoosier slick that need changing and I may go the DOT route. How do I convert the sizes this is what I havee:
Front - 250/650R18
Back - 305-645R18
Thank you in advance.
Front - 250/650R18
Back - 305-645R18
Thank you in advance.
#2
650 tire height in mm
18 wheel diameter
closest street R tire to a 250/650 x18 is 245/40 x18
closest street R tire to 305/645 x18 is 305/30 x18
#3
Slicks measure the sidewall as total height, so a 650 (Hoosier) or 65 (Michelin) slick is 650mm in diameter, converted to inches, 25.59". A 645mm is 25.39"
In regards to width, each tire brand/model has variances, so it is better to use the factory specs.
The 250/650R18 Hoosier R80/R100 has a width of 9.8" on a 9" wheel with an unloaded contact patch (tread width) of 9.1". The closest DOT Hoosier R6/A6 to that size is the 245/40R18.
The 305/645R18 R80/R100 has a width of 12.7" on a 12" wheel with an unloaded contact patch (tread width) of 11.8". The closest DOT Hoosier R6/A6 to that size is the 315/30R18, almost an exact match at 12.5" total width on a 12" wheel with a 11.8" tread width.
Generally, the ideal setup track tire for the 996 GT3 street car on 9"/11" or 9"/12" wheels is the 255/35R18 and 315/30R18. I like short profile tires on the front axle due to the more precise steering, and I like tall profile tires on the rear due to the heavy load rating on taller tires.
I would go 255/35R18 and 305/30R18 R6, long lasting tires (16 to 20HC, some guys get 24HC), affordable, and plenty of contingency programs in NASA, SCCA and NARRA Club Racing and Time Trials to re-stock free tires.
I also prefer the 245/35 to the 245/40 in a 996 GT3, but given the existence of the nice 255/35, this is my preferred tire from the 3 Hoosier sizes. If the car is a little too loose, just stiffen the front sway bar one hole, and back to neutral.
In regards to width, each tire brand/model has variances, so it is better to use the factory specs.
The 250/650R18 Hoosier R80/R100 has a width of 9.8" on a 9" wheel with an unloaded contact patch (tread width) of 9.1". The closest DOT Hoosier R6/A6 to that size is the 245/40R18.
The 305/645R18 R80/R100 has a width of 12.7" on a 12" wheel with an unloaded contact patch (tread width) of 11.8". The closest DOT Hoosier R6/A6 to that size is the 315/30R18, almost an exact match at 12.5" total width on a 12" wheel with a 11.8" tread width.
Generally, the ideal setup track tire for the 996 GT3 street car on 9"/11" or 9"/12" wheels is the 255/35R18 and 315/30R18. I like short profile tires on the front axle due to the more precise steering, and I like tall profile tires on the rear due to the heavy load rating on taller tires.
I would go 255/35R18 and 305/30R18 R6, long lasting tires (16 to 20HC, some guys get 24HC), affordable, and plenty of contingency programs in NASA, SCCA and NARRA Club Racing and Time Trials to re-stock free tires.
I also prefer the 245/35 to the 245/40 in a 996 GT3, but given the existence of the nice 255/35, this is my preferred tire from the 3 Hoosier sizes. If the car is a little too loose, just stiffen the front sway bar one hole, and back to neutral.
#5
I'm considering BFG g-force. I'm told the may take a little longer to get to temp but that they are good and can get over 30HC in DE. Here is there size chart...would any of these work? I'm thinking 245/40 and 285/30??? Thoughts.
225/40ZR18
245/40ZR18
265/35ZR18
275/35ZR18
285/30ZR18
285/30ZR18
335/30ZR18
335/30ZR18
225/40ZR18
245/40ZR18
265/35ZR18
275/35ZR18
285/30ZR18
285/30ZR18
335/30ZR18
335/30ZR18
#6
we run BFG R1's 245/285 (f/r) on SPEC996's. they are good for racing to 20HC, and practice or DE until 35-38HC. The harder you push them, the better they get, but I doubt you'll out run your early cycle Hoosier times.
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#8
I'm considering BFG g-force. I'm told the may take a little longer to get to temp but that they are good and can get over 30HC in DE. Here is there size chart...would any of these work? I'm thinking 245/40 and 285/30??? Thoughts.
225/40ZR18
245/40ZR18
265/35ZR18
275/35ZR18
285/30ZR18
285/30ZR18
335/30ZR18
335/30ZR18
225/40ZR18
245/40ZR18
265/35ZR18
275/35ZR18
285/30ZR18
285/30ZR18
335/30ZR18
335/30ZR18
1) stock abs?
2) stock abs wheel tooth count?
3) did the previous tires, I assume Front - 250/650R18,Back - 305-645R18, fit & provide the gearing & work w/ the existing abs to your complete satisfaction?
#9
stock abs. The previous hoosiers were awesome and worked fine. I decided to get a set of hoosiers and a set of bfg and test them on the same day side by side. I'm okay giving up 2 seconds if I can get more time on the tires. I'm shredding the hoosier and driving them to cord which is way past it primee the hoosiers for racing.
#10
stock ABS works best when the front and rear tires heights are the same(there is some wiggle room but the further from 0 deviation the better), your old set up using 650/645 had a deviation of less than 1% which is good
you don't mention wheel widths but assuming 9&11 or 9&12 wheels Hoosier R6 has either a 315/30 @25.6" tall or a 295/30 @25.3" tall a 255/35 front @24.8" tall gives a bit less than 2% delta w/ the 315/30 and is also acceptable
BFG unfortunately doesn't have the Hoosier sizes, the best they can do is a 285/30 rear(too small) or a 335/30 which is too tall and needs a 12" wheel unless you use a 265/35 front
you don't mention wheel widths but assuming 9&11 or 9&12 wheels Hoosier R6 has either a 315/30 @25.6" tall or a 295/30 @25.3" tall a 255/35 front @24.8" tall gives a bit less than 2% delta w/ the 315/30 and is also acceptable
BFG unfortunately doesn't have the Hoosier sizes, the best they can do is a 285/30 rear(too small) or a 335/30 which is too tall and needs a 12" wheel unless you use a 265/35 front
#11
I used to use 265 BFG's on my M3 and they were as wide or wider than the 275 Nitto's I used on that car.
Spec's for the Hoosier vs. BFG
Hoosier: 315/30/18 245/40/18 **255/35/18**
Section width: 12.5 10.5 10.8
Tread Width: 11.8 9.3 10.3
Diameter: 25.6 25.7 24.8
BFG: 285/30/18 245/40/18
Section width 11.4 9.8
Tread width 11.5 9.5
Diameter 24.9 25.4
Added the 255 R6 because it's a popular alternative front tire many of the '6 GT3 crowd have gone to.
#12
Hi guys,
I've bought a 993 RSR replica on slicks and I'm going to switch to DOT, to drive to and from the track.
The slicks are Michelin 24/64-18 and 27/65-18. They fill the arches perfectly, so I'm keen to get equivalent street sizes.
The rims are 8.5" front and 10" rear.
For the front, I'm thinking:
235/40-18 (Pilot Sport Cup or Pilot Super Sport)
For the rear, I'm thinking:
285/30-18 (Pilot Sport Cup) or 285/35-18 (Pilot Super Sport)
I prefer Super Sports, for their much better resistance to aquaplaning.
Would you please help?
Thanks,
I've bought a 993 RSR replica on slicks and I'm going to switch to DOT, to drive to and from the track.
The slicks are Michelin 24/64-18 and 27/65-18. They fill the arches perfectly, so I'm keen to get equivalent street sizes.
The rims are 8.5" front and 10" rear.
For the front, I'm thinking:
235/40-18 (Pilot Sport Cup or Pilot Super Sport)
For the rear, I'm thinking:
285/30-18 (Pilot Sport Cup) or 285/35-18 (Pilot Super Sport)
I prefer Super Sports, for their much better resistance to aquaplaning.
Would you please help?
Thanks,
#15
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Hi guys,
I've bought a 993 RSR replica on slicks and I'm going to switch to DOT, to drive to and from the track.
The slicks are Michelin 24/64-18 and 27/65-18. They fill the arches perfectly, so I'm keen to get equivalent street sizes.
The rims are 8.5" front and 10" rear.
For the front, I'm thinking:
235/40-18 (Pilot Sport Cup or Pilot Super Sport)
For the rear, I'm thinking:
285/30-18 (Pilot Sport Cup) or 285/35-18 (Pilot Super Sport)
I prefer Super Sports, for their much better resistance to aquaplaning.
Would you please help?
Thanks,
I've bought a 993 RSR replica on slicks and I'm going to switch to DOT, to drive to and from the track.
The slicks are Michelin 24/64-18 and 27/65-18. They fill the arches perfectly, so I'm keen to get equivalent street sizes.
The rims are 8.5" front and 10" rear.
For the front, I'm thinking:
235/40-18 (Pilot Sport Cup or Pilot Super Sport)
For the rear, I'm thinking:
285/30-18 (Pilot Sport Cup) or 285/35-18 (Pilot Super Sport)
I prefer Super Sports, for their much better resistance to aquaplaning.
Would you please help?
Thanks,