Converting Slick Sizes to Street Sizes
Hello mates. I have a set of hoosier slick that need changing and I may go the DOT route. How do I convert the sizes this is what I havee:
Front - 250/650R18 Back - 305-645R18 Thank you in advance. |
Originally Posted by Big Al HURT123
(Post 9747001)
Hello mates. I have a set of hoosier slick that need changing and I may go the DOT route. How do I convert the sizes this is what I havee:
Front - 250/650R18 Back - 305-645R18 Thank you in advance. 650 tire height in mm 18 wheel diameter closest street R tire to a 250/650 x18 is 245/40 x18 closest street R tire to 305/645 x18 is 305/30 x18 |
Slicks measure the sidewall as total height, so a 650 (Hoosier) or 65 (Michelin) slick is 650mm in diameter, converted to inches, 25.59". A 645mm is 25.39"
In regards to width, each tire brand/model has variances, so it is better to use the factory specs. The 250/650R18 Hoosier R80/R100 has a width of 9.8" on a 9" wheel with an unloaded contact patch (tread width) of 9.1". The closest DOT Hoosier R6/A6 to that size is the 245/40R18. The 305/645R18 R80/R100 has a width of 12.7" on a 12" wheel with an unloaded contact patch (tread width) of 11.8". The closest DOT Hoosier R6/A6 to that size is the 315/30R18, almost an exact match at 12.5" total width on a 12" wheel with a 11.8" tread width. Generally, the ideal setup track tire for the 996 GT3 street car on 9"/11" or 9"/12" wheels is the 255/35R18 and 315/30R18. I like short profile tires on the front axle due to the more precise steering, and I like tall profile tires on the rear due to the heavy load rating on taller tires. I would go 255/35R18 and 305/30R18 R6, long lasting tires (16 to 20HC, some guys get 24HC), affordable, and plenty of contingency programs in NASA, SCCA and NARRA Club Racing and Time Trials to re-stock free tires. I also prefer the 245/35 to the 245/40 in a 996 GT3, but given the existence of the nice 255/35, this is my preferred tire from the 3 Hoosier sizes. If the car is a little too loose, just stiffen the front sway bar one hole, and back to neutral. |
Thank you so much for the all the info!
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I'm considering BFG g-force. I'm told the may take a little longer to get to temp but that they are good and can get over 30HC in DE. Here is there size chart...would any of these work? I'm thinking 245/40 and 285/30??? Thoughts.
225/40ZR18 245/40ZR18 265/35ZR18 275/35ZR18 285/30ZR18 285/30ZR18 335/30ZR18 335/30ZR18 |
we run BFG R1's 245/285 (f/r) on SPEC996's. they are good for racing to 20HC, and practice or DE until 35-38HC. The harder you push them, the better they get, but I doubt you'll out run your early cycle Hoosier times.
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Originally Posted by TRT41
(Post 9750819)
we run BFG R1's 245/285 (f/r) on SPEC996's. they are good for racing to 20HC, and practice or DE until 35-38HC. The harder you push them, the better they get, but I doubt you'll out run your early cycle Hoosier times.
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Originally Posted by Big Al HURT123
(Post 9749747)
I'm considering BFG g-force. I'm told the may take a little longer to get to temp but that they are good and can get over 30HC in DE. Here is there size chart...would any of these work? I'm thinking 245/40 and 285/30??? Thoughts.
225/40ZR18 245/40ZR18 265/35ZR18 275/35ZR18 285/30ZR18 285/30ZR18 335/30ZR18 335/30ZR18 1) stock abs? 2) stock abs wheel tooth count? 3) did the previous tires, I assume Front - 250/650R18,Back - 305-645R18, fit & provide the gearing & work w/ the existing abs to your complete satisfaction? |
stock abs. The previous hoosiers were awesome and worked fine. I decided to get a set of hoosiers and a set of bfg and test them on the same day side by side. I'm okay giving up 2 seconds if I can get more time on the tires. I'm shredding the hoosier and driving them to cord which is way past it primee the hoosiers for racing.
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stock ABS works best when the front and rear tires heights are the same(there is some wiggle room but the further from 0 deviation the better), your old set up using 650/645 had a deviation of less than 1% which is good
you don't mention wheel widths but assuming 9&11 or 9&12 wheels Hoosier R6 has either a 315/30 @25.6" tall or a 295/30 @25.3" tall a 255/35 front @24.8" tall gives a bit less than 2% delta w/ the 315/30 and is also acceptable BFG unfortunately doesn't have the Hoosier sizes, the best they can do is a 285/30 rear(too small) or a 335/30 which is too tall and needs a 12" wheel unless you use a 265/35 front |
Originally Posted by Bill Verburg
(Post 9751994)
BFG unfortunately doesn't have the Hoosier sizes, the best they can do is a 285/30 rear(too small) or a 335/30 which is too tall and needs a 12" wheel unless you use a 265/35 front
I used to use 265 BFG's on my M3 and they were as wide or wider than the 275 Nitto's I used on that car. Spec's for the Hoosier vs. BFG Hoosier: 315/30/18 245/40/18 **255/35/18** Section width: 12.5 10.5 10.8 Tread Width: 11.8 9.3 10.3 Diameter: 25.6 25.7 24.8 BFG: 285/30/18 245/40/18 Section width 11.4 9.8 Tread width 11.5 9.5 Diameter 24.9 25.4 Added the 255 R6 because it's a popular alternative front tire many of the '6 GT3 crowd have gone to. |
Hi guys,
I've bought a 993 RSR replica on slicks and I'm going to switch to DOT, to drive to and from the track. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...2013032242.jpg The slicks are Michelin 24/64-18 and 27/65-18. They fill the arches perfectly, so I'm keen to get equivalent street sizes. The rims are 8.5" front and 10" rear. For the front, I'm thinking: 235/40-18 (Pilot Sport Cup or Pilot Super Sport) For the rear, I'm thinking: 285/30-18 (Pilot Sport Cup) or 285/35-18 (Pilot Super Sport) I prefer Super Sports, for their much better resistance to aquaplaning. Would you please help? Thanks, |
Merely curious here, but what clutch package is in the RSR - and how does one keep it alive on the street?
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It's just an RSR replica, based on a regular 993 and then profoundly modified. Clutch is std.
To drive on the road it just needs DOT tires, H&R springs, a horn and licence plates. :-) |
That car is beautiful... Very nice! :) :)
Originally Posted by alexwagner
(Post 10427901)
Hi guys,
I've bought a 993 RSR replica on slicks and I'm going to switch to DOT, to drive to and from the track. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...2013032242.jpg The slicks are Michelin 24/64-18 and 27/65-18. They fill the arches perfectly, so I'm keen to get equivalent street sizes. The rims are 8.5" front and 10" rear. For the front, I'm thinking: 235/40-18 (Pilot Sport Cup or Pilot Super Sport) For the rear, I'm thinking: 285/30-18 (Pilot Sport Cup) or 285/35-18 (Pilot Super Sport) I prefer Super Sports, for their much better resistance to aquaplaning. Would you please help? Thanks, |
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