Patrick Long's NASCAR Debut @The Glen
08-08-2012, 09:17 AM
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I'm a big fan of Patrick and want to see him do well in the worst way, but I fear the equipment he's jumping in will not give him the opportunity to really show his talents.
Enough of the drivers with the top teams have devoted enough attention over the last 5+ years to getting better at road racing that it's very hard for a ringer to come in these days and beat them in sub-par equipment.
None the less I'm hoping he can still make a strong showing.
Enough of the drivers with the top teams have devoted enough attention over the last 5+ years to getting better at road racing that it's very hard for a ringer to come in these days and beat them in sub-par equipment.
None the less I'm hoping he can still make a strong showing.
Even if I don't like Nascar their top drivers are excellent, and it takes a lot of tech expertise to move a 3600lb race-car at speeds over 200mph
08-08-2012, 10:29 AM
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Would love to see Patrick do well at the Glen. Heck, I'll be happy if they mention him and his involvement with Porsche. Always good to see a PCAer do well.
08-08-2012, 11:15 AM
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I'm honestly not sure what I think about that "punt", as it is often difficult to make a call from just one camera angle. I'm ambivalent about Logano, but honestly I'm not sure I would do better than that on a post-race interview after losing in last turn. Can't wait to see Patrick run with the big boys this weekend!
I'm calling it a brake check on punkboy.
08-08-2012, 11:30 AM
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Patrick Long absolutely, positively punted him on the last corner and should have been penalized. I don't give a **** about NASCAR, but will watch Infinion and WG. Logano went defensive into the last corner to prevent Long from dive bombing. Long plain and simply crashed him out. Total bull****.
Did you see the telemetry and are certain he brake checked him?
Long knows better and did it on purpose because "he can". NASCAR loves that **** and doesn't do anything about it. Guaranteed if it was some other race series that would give you a 20 second penalty for spinning out the lead car on the last corner of the last lap then he would have stayed out of his rear bumper.
That's the first time I heard Logano speak and got to give him credit for not going Kyle Busch on everyone....
08-08-2012, 11:37 AM
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Your joking right? Either that or objectivity is lost. You may be a fan of Patrick Long, and you may not like Logano, but you've got to look at this with impartial eyes.
Patrick Long absolutely, positively punted him on the last corner and should have been penalized. I don't give a **** about NASCAR, but will watch Infinion and WG. Logano went defensive into the last corner to prevent Long from dive bombing. Long plain and simply crashed him out. Total bull****.
Did you see the telemetry and are certain he brake checked him?
Long knows better and did it on purpose because "he can". NASCAR loves that **** and doesn't do anything about it. Guaranteed if it was some other race series that would give you a 20 second penalty for spinning out the lead car on the last corner of the last lap then he would have stayed out of his rear bumper.
That's the first time I heard Logano speak and got to give him credit for not going Kyle Busch on everyone....
Patrick Long absolutely, positively punted him on the last corner and should have been penalized. I don't give a **** about NASCAR, but will watch Infinion and WG. Logano went defensive into the last corner to prevent Long from dive bombing. Long plain and simply crashed him out. Total bull****.
Did you see the telemetry and are certain he brake checked him?
Long knows better and did it on purpose because "he can". NASCAR loves that **** and doesn't do anything about it. Guaranteed if it was some other race series that would give you a 20 second penalty for spinning out the lead car on the last corner of the last lap then he would have stayed out of his rear bumper.
That's the first time I heard Logano speak and got to give him credit for not going Kyle Busch on everyone....
That is what I call "Shooting your mouth off before your brain is loaded"
08-08-2012, 11:39 AM
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He did it because he was punted three times during his run in the summer of 2009 while in first place and it was okay if you were a up coming brother of some established NASCAR driver. Even Richard Childress said he should not of been penalized and should receive a warning like the others. Joey was just playing up the hit, he didn't see anything wrong with it the time he punted Pat.
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regards
08-08-2012, 11:53 AM
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Your joking right? Either that or objectivity is lost. You may be a fan of Patrick Long, and you may not like Logano, but you've got to look at this with impartial eyes.
Patrick Long absolutely, positively punted him on the last corner and should have been penalized. I don't give a **** about NASCAR, but will watch Infinion and WG. Logano went defensive into the last corner to prevent Long from dive bombing. Long plain and simply crashed him out. Total bull****.
Did you see the telemetry and are certain he brake checked him?
Long knows better and did it on purpose because "he can". NASCAR loves that **** and doesn't do anything about it. Guaranteed if it was some other race series that would give you a 20 second penalty for spinning out the lead car on the last corner of the last lap then he would have stayed out of his rear bumper.
That's the first time I heard Logano speak and got to give him credit for not going Kyle Busch on everyone....
Patrick Long absolutely, positively punted him on the last corner and should have been penalized. I don't give a **** about NASCAR, but will watch Infinion and WG. Logano went defensive into the last corner to prevent Long from dive bombing. Long plain and simply crashed him out. Total bull****.
Did you see the telemetry and are certain he brake checked him?
Long knows better and did it on purpose because "he can". NASCAR loves that **** and doesn't do anything about it. Guaranteed if it was some other race series that would give you a 20 second penalty for spinning out the lead car on the last corner of the last lap then he would have stayed out of his rear bumper.
That's the first time I heard Logano speak and got to give him credit for not going Kyle Busch on everyone....
08-08-2012, 11:58 AM
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As I said, I never watch NASCAR, but I watched the Youtube clip that was put up on this incident in this thread and it made no mention of a penalty.
I think we can all agree that PL did it on purpose. I don't see where Logano was brake checking. I'm shocked that NASCAR penalized him. Isn't this what they want? Maybe because Long is not a NASCAR regular? IDK, it's hard to figure them out -- I'm looking at this as being a serious race, not made for TV "show"....
I think we can all agree that PL did it on purpose. I don't see where Logano was brake checking. I'm shocked that NASCAR penalized him. Isn't this what they want? Maybe because Long is not a NASCAR regular? IDK, it's hard to figure them out -- I'm looking at this as being a serious race, not made for TV "show"....
08-08-2012, 12:07 PM
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Wasn't it PL who punted another make of car in the chicane at Baltimore last year? That was payback for some issue in a previous race I think I read--maybe even team orders. It would be cool to know what PL thinks of these incidents.
08-08-2012, 12:12 PM
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Is PL the bad boy of NASCAR hired guns for road courses? Is he the enforcer, executioner?
Regardless, I'll be watching the race at the Glen
Regardless, I'll be watching the race at the Glen
08-08-2012, 01:12 PM
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The problem with NASCAR and grand am is they do not have the ***** at times to be fair in penalizing big teams. How many races back in the day did Earnhardt Sr rough a guy up and go on to win on the last lap with out any consequence. I saw Jeff Gordon do the same at Martinsville years ago in person, and he went on to win with no penalty. Or the Ginassi giant of grand am that can take cars out both in GT And DP and not even get a stop and go. Big Money always wins. NASCAR is smart about the bottom line.
Not to side Track the conversation but go Pat!
Not to side Track the conversation but go Pat!
08-08-2012, 01:16 PM
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I'm a firm believer in "Bumping". I will give you the first 4 blocks "Free", after that be prepared, because you are leaving me no other choice to get by your slow ***.....
(I only do this in Chumpcar, I would never do that in my own Porsche).
(I only do this in Chumpcar, I would never do that in my own Porsche).
08-08-2012, 01:27 PM
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I've rewatched the video a few times. It's pretty obvious that Logano throws out the anchor. PL is closing on him in a hurry coming into the last turn, and had he been in front he would have gapped him in a bit way going through and out of the turn. But I'm still not sure that it wasn't a punt (intentional or otherwise) on Pat's account.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that Logano was running with PL exceptionally well in the race. NASCAR may or may not be your thing, but these guys can clearly dirve. It would be fun to see some of them run GT class in ALMS.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that Logano was running with PL exceptionally well in the race. NASCAR may or may not be your thing, but these guys can clearly dirve. It would be fun to see some of them run GT class in ALMS.
08-08-2012, 01:44 PM
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I've rewatched the video a few times. It's pretty obvious that Logano throws out the anchor. PL is closing on him in a hurry coming into the last turn, and had he been in front he would have gapped him in a bit way going through and out of the turn. But I'm still not sure that it wasn't a punt (intentional or otherwise) on Pat's account.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that Logano was running with PL exceptionally well in the race. NASCAR may or may not be your thing, but these guys can clearly dirve. It would be fun to see some of them run GT class in ALMS.
Let's not lose sight of the fact that Logano was running with PL exceptionally well in the race. NASCAR may or may not be your thing, but these guys can clearly dirve. It would be fun to see some of them run GT class in ALMS.