Notices
Racing & Drivers Education Forum
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Is anyone running Hoosier A6's on a road course

Old 06-28-2012, 08:54 PM
  #1  
JackOlsen
Race Car
Thread Starter
 
JackOlsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 3,920
Received 62 Likes on 48 Posts
Default Is anyone running Hoosier A6's on a road course

I'm thinking of running a single set, just to get a good cheater lap time on the books. It won't be in a race, so I can keep my session short, and I can run them on a cool day.

But since I only want to run one set, can anyone tell me a good cold starting pressure (and hot goal pressure) for a 2300-pound 911?

Also, if you run them, what camber settings do you like best?
Old 06-28-2012, 10:16 PM
  #2  
Streak
Perfect Angel
Rennlist Member
 
Streak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Beyond the Pale
Posts: 7,893
Received 154 Likes on 74 Posts
Default

They seem to be the tire of choice these days. The NASA GTS3 guys around here only use A6 and the last two PCA races the I stock guys were running A6. These are 30-40 minute stints. Not sure about enduros.
Old 06-28-2012, 10:26 PM
  #3  
ProCoach
Rennlist
Basic Site Sponsor
 
ProCoach's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Durham, NC and Virginia International Raceway
Posts: 18,645
Received 2,797 Likes on 1,652 Posts
Default

430 Challenge Ferrari, late C6 Z-06, awesome and providing ambient isn't too high, just fine.

Man, the opening lap is terrific!
__________________
-Peter Krause
www.peterkrause.net
www.gofasternow.com
"Combining the Art and Science of Driving Fast!"
Specializing in Professional, Private Driver Performance Evaluation and Optimization
Consultation Available Remotely and at VIRginia International Raceway






















Old 06-28-2012, 10:41 PM
  #4  
analogmike
Rennlist Member
 
analogmike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Danbury, CT, USA
Posts: 3,909
Received 97 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

Love them! I had a set I used at an autocross and for the Robin Hood Rally and I finally tested them at Lime Rock. They feel GREAT, you can really drive the car hard without washing out. They seemed ok in hot weather for a 20 minute race on a stock '73 911. I finally broke a minute in qualifying on them. But they are about worn out after only 3 20 minute sessions. Maybe best used for only qualifying.

As for pressures, they seemed to gain more than the R6, so I would start at about 26-28, they should work great in the mid 30s. Mine got up to 40PSI and were ok but not as good as a few pounds lower.
Old 06-29-2012, 02:07 AM
  #5  
944CS
Drifting
 
944CS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Phila.
Posts: 2,290
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

on tracks like lime rock I would run them on the right side only, lime rock doesn't give you much time to cool the tires. unless you want that really REALLY good lap.
Old 06-29-2012, 02:35 AM
  #6  
fatbillybob
Drifting
 
fatbillybob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,084
Received 128 Likes on 83 Posts
Default

Funny!

At a big race the hoo-hoo guy was out and about and questioned our tire choice (code for giving us a rash of cr@p) and then questioned our pressures (more code) . Told us very scientifically why we can't do what we are doing. All I can say is don't listen to the hoo-hoo guy and test test test with good tires and your pyrometer to seek nirvana. The pressures you need are not what you think based on emprical use of dot tires typically used on road courses.
Old 06-29-2012, 03:10 AM
  #7  
JackOlsen
Race Car
Thread Starter
 
JackOlsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 3,920
Received 62 Likes on 48 Posts
Default

Thanks, guys. I'm still not positive I want to tear up that many hundred dollar bills in an afternoon. It's a hard contrast to the Nitto NT01s I've been running, which last over a year of regular events -- and street driving. But it sounds like Mike's pressures would give me a good starting point.
Old 06-29-2012, 03:35 AM
  #8  
333pg333
Rennlist Member
 
333pg333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 18,902
Received 93 Likes on 76 Posts
Default

How would you guys compare them against say the R80 Hoosier slick for a short sprint event?
Old 06-29-2012, 11:57 AM
  #9  
analogmike
Rennlist Member
 
analogmike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Danbury, CT, USA
Posts: 3,909
Received 97 Likes on 39 Posts
Default

I don't think any DOT tire can match a Hoosier slick, they are just so much lighter and a no compromise race tire.
Old 06-29-2012, 11:53 PM
  #10  
ukrbmw
Pro
 
ukrbmw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 722
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Patrick - it depends on your class. In our race groups I get 0.5 bump on power by running DOT tire. If your car is light enough you can make A6s last a lot longer than 3 20 minute sessions. Even on my 3300 GT3 I ran some of my faster times on 12-13s heat cycle. Just make sure you rotate them and I used to get them flipped on the rim as well ($60 is still better than $1200 for a new set).

I think if you ran A6s and R80s back to back you'd be surprised at the results (I did this one day - expensive test but well worth it).
Old 06-30-2012, 01:11 AM
  #11  
Gary R.
Rennlist Member
 
Gary R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Valencia, Spain
Posts: 15,568
Received 253 Likes on 156 Posts
Default

You guys are sick...
Old 06-30-2012, 01:22 AM
  #12  
turbochad
Rennlist Member
 
turbochad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 258
Received 27 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

I don't get 13 heat cycles out of my R6s.

I must have A6s on my Buckley wheels. This sounds like fun.
Old 06-30-2012, 01:27 AM
  #13  
Gary R.
Rennlist Member
 
Gary R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Valencia, Spain
Posts: 15,568
Received 253 Likes on 156 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by turbochad
I don't get 13 heat cycles out of my R6s.

I must have A6s on my Buckley wheels. This sounds like fun.
A6's on 15's at a track like Lightning in NJ would last about 10 laps before you leave the rubber behind you. I forget, what is the prize for winning again?
Old 06-30-2012, 01:39 AM
  #14  
turbochad
Rennlist Member
 
turbochad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 258
Received 27 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

I agree it is sick, and there is no prize, but speed is speed, and if it didn't matter none of us would be here talking about it.

I am interested in doing a set of A6's just for qualifying. 10 laps may be all you need. Heck, I may even try autocross.
Old 06-30-2012, 01:55 AM
  #15  
Gary R.
Rennlist Member
 
Gary R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Valencia, Spain
Posts: 15,568
Received 253 Likes on 156 Posts
Default

I'll settle for qualifying 2nd or 3rd in class and have tires that last the whole race... but that's just me!

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Is anyone running Hoosier A6's on a road course



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:41 PM.