Le Mans 24 Hrs huge incident.....
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If it wasn't for the gentleman drivers, there wouldn't be "Professional" sports car racing in the world as we know it today (or at all). And the majority of Professional sports car drivers who barely squeak by making a living would be doing something else.
I'm not saying they (gentleman drivers/paying AM's) shouldn't be better, just stating a fact. :-)
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I'm not saying they (gentleman drivers/paying AM's) shouldn't be better, just stating a fact. :-)
-mike
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If it wasn't for the gentleman drivers, there wouldn't be "Professional" sports car racing in the world as we know it today (or at all). And the majority of Professional sports car drivers who barely squeak by making a living would be doing something else.
I'm not saying they (gentleman drivers/paying AM's) shouldn't be better, just stating a fact. :-)
-mike
I'm not saying they (gentleman drivers/paying AM's) shouldn't be better, just stating a fact. :-)
-mike
Then we can elect to watch it or not. Sure I would like to do it myself and my friends and familly would be interested in it. But why would you ? ;o)
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If it wasn't for the gentleman drivers, there wouldn't be "Professional" sports car racing in the world as we know it today (or at all). And the majority of Professional sports car drivers who barely squeak by making a living would be doing something else.
I'm not saying they (gentleman drivers/paying AM's) shouldn't be better, just stating a fact. :-)
-mike
I'm not saying they (gentleman drivers/paying AM's) shouldn't be better, just stating a fact. :-)
-mike
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Meh, you saw plenty of dumb moves by some of the pros and a pile by the lead Audi drivers, the armatures hit rate was about the same...some real low percentage moves. I would think that the seasoned drivers would just look at the AM placard on the back and pretend its an "R"...
He could've been more careful and pass outside or after the turn, always when you pass inside where the slower car's line is, you have to be careful.
Not saying it wasn't Ferrari driver's fault because it was but the faster drivers have to take care also.
Gentleman drivers... Yeah, I don't like them either, partly because it creates situations like that but mostly because I feel I could do a better job than most of them if someone would fund me.
Let's be honest guys, all of us who track our cars would love to do that an would not hesitate for a moment if a chance was given so don't really blame them, blame organizations who don't scrutineer enough the level of amateur drivers.
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If I had my own lizards and wrote the checks you bet I'd have a seat. Already paying for some of the best coaches with long and bergmeister. As much as Seth's skills weaken the second car, its his cash that gets the whole team there in the first place. Just the reality of it. I actually think Neiman is getting better; if his incident was due to a leak as suggested he was doing pretty well.
One other thought, how many sports are elevated to the point that unless you were one of a very small number of a very elite circle you could never participate? NBA, NFL, PGA, NHL... Granted LMS is not F1' but for the pinacle of sportscar racing it is a at least a possibility, if you have the means, and a modicum of talent... Not arguing that any joe gets to buy a seat, but it is a possibility for many.
One other thought, how many sports are elevated to the point that unless you were one of a very small number of a very elite circle you could never participate? NBA, NFL, PGA, NHL... Granted LMS is not F1' but for the pinacle of sportscar racing it is a at least a possibility, if you have the means, and a modicum of talent... Not arguing that any joe gets to buy a seat, but it is a possibility for many.
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I'm susprised nobody mentioned the risk associated with putting different classes of cars together on track. With GTE cars lapping 30sec slower than LMP cars, there are bound to be incidents even amongst professional drivers.
Check out the closing rate of the Nissan on the Ferrari and positioning at 0:22. Hard to tell with telephoto lens but it didn't appear that Ant had Ferrari yet at point, which is where the Ferrari begins his turn-in. Maybe it occurred earlier but I also didn't see the Nissan flash his lights, which i thought was standard practice when overtaking a much slower car at Le Mans. Not placing blame anywhere but not sure it's all that clearcut IMHO.
Similar incident in 2010:
Anyway, hope Ant recovers quickly.
Check out the closing rate of the Nissan on the Ferrari and positioning at 0:22. Hard to tell with telephoto lens but it didn't appear that Ant had Ferrari yet at point, which is where the Ferrari begins his turn-in. Maybe it occurred earlier but I also didn't see the Nissan flash his lights, which i thought was standard practice when overtaking a much slower car at Le Mans. Not placing blame anywhere but not sure it's all that clearcut IMHO.
Similar incident in 2010:
Anyway, hope Ant recovers quickly.
Last edited by Nizer; 06-18-2012 at 09:40 PM.
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Looked like the GT driver had no idea he was on the inside. It's not like he was dive bombed. Bad mistake he should have braked earlier and let the LMP1 by, I doubt the guy even knew he was there.