Pileup in the Wreck E30 Class (video)
05-24-2012, 12:52 PM
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jaje,
It's also clear form the video that the #9 car comes forward and then over on the camera car. You can see that because of the car suddenly appears in the camera's field of view moving ahead and then over into the camera car. The #9 car had not completed a pass and had no right to the space occupied by the camera car. It's not like the camera car drove into the #9 car.
Scott
It's also clear form the video that the #9 car comes forward and then over on the camera car. You can see that because of the car suddenly appears in the camera's field of view moving ahead and then over into the camera car. The #9 car had not completed a pass and had no right to the space occupied by the camera car. It's not like the camera car drove into the #9 car.
Scott
05-24-2012, 02:34 PM
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Video from the guy who made it through on the left:
From the neapoliton colored car in front of the camera car video above:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ol-D...ature=youtu.be
From the neapoliton colored car in front of the camera car video above:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ol-D...ature=youtu.be
05-24-2012, 04:07 PM
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Wow!! You must be looking at a different video. If you are not, well, I don't want you being a race steward when I am on the track.
Look at where the #93 car is in relation to the camera car when the #9 car hits the camera car. The distance is less than half a car length and the #9 car CAN'T be more than half a car length ahead since he too is behind the #93 car.
Scott
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jaje,
It's also clear form the video that the #9 car comes forward and then over on the camera car. You can see that because of the car suddenly appears in the camera's field of view moving ahead and then over into the camera car. The #9 car had not completed a pass and had no right to the space occupied by the camera car. It's not like the camera car drove into the #9 car.
Scott
Look at where the #93 car is in relation to the camera car when the #9 car hits the camera car. The distance is less than half a car length and the #9 car CAN'T be more than half a car length ahead since he too is behind the #93 car.
Scott
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jaje,
It's also clear form the video that the #9 car comes forward and then over on the camera car. You can see that because of the car suddenly appears in the camera's field of view moving ahead and then over into the camera car. The #9 car had not completed a pass and had no right to the space occupied by the camera car. It's not like the camera car drove into the #9 car.
Scott
So I was assuming the #93 camera car was the one passing on the inside on the #9 car. You have to come to the conclusion that reviewing something in a vacuum with limited information, well leads to varying results. Anyway my conclusion was based on #93 being the passing car and they did not give the #9 room when passing as they are only allowed 3/4 width in the corner (the passing car will have to put its inside wheels upon the apex or in the dirt) - which they didn't do and contact resulted.
I'm more than fair with my racers and ask that they prove me wrong if they don't agree. Hell I am not perfect and open to seeing all the evidence provided before making a decision. I'm open to changing my initial determination as well if someone provides new evidence. Our rules are built in with time to review and gather. Drivers must submit their protest w/in 30 minutes of the race and all results are not final until 30 days after the event for the final binding decision. You can even suggest appointment of an independent review board as well.
Trying to look at this the other way with the #9 being the passing car I can't tell much from this video due to the again the lack of 180 camera view. He could have had his whole car in front at one point thereby winning the corner. But from what is written here on the forum it sounds like the #9 did not compete his pass properly and came down on the line. However that begs a question of whether the #93 could have gone a little further track left to avoid contact altogether. He would have owned the corner at the exit and provided the #9 car a 3/4 width at track out (losing proposition there).
