Originally Posted by himself

I've seen a lot of people misinterpret warm up. They think it means go slow until the green flag and then gradually build up pace. I've been in yellow/red/white groups with people putting around the warm up lap. IMO, the warm up yellow (of course) means no passing - but doesn't mean go "slow." You should be driving the car fairly hard. Temper this with early braking (and brake checks) and traction sensing along the way. I would venture to say you can get within a second of full traction in 1 lap with most tires (of course, depending on the length of the track).

Also, all tires are going to give you audible feedback. Where that happens is different for tire type and manufacturer. Even slicks will give you audible feedback. With respect to Nitto's, they like a lot of slip angle so they talk just about every corner. Almost as much as a street tire. They squeal - a lot. One good thing about the NT-01, when they get over the limit and are on the declining edge of grip, the decline is pretty progressive, so you have a lot of time to catch the car. They are very forgiving and a great learning tire. On the downside, your timing will be slow compared to a tire requiring less slip angle.

-td

Originally Posted by Dave 86 930 Fl

TD,

Chin does not allow passing during the warm-up lap, whereas PBOC appears to allow passing on the warm-up lap.

Originally Posted by ervtx

What color flag is displayed when PBOC allows passing on a warm up lap?

Originally Posted by Dave 86 930 Fl

Seems like a trick question ... Just checked my video from Winterfest ... White flag.

No mention of passing rules on warm-up lap during PBOC driver's meeting and nothing in registration package.

Originally Posted by ervtx

Not a trick question; just peeling the onion one layer at a time. I thought you might say either green or yellow, in which case I would have questioned either the meaning of "warm up" under green, or faithfulness to the meaning of "no passing" under yellow.

But white? Would that imply a full-course green, with a local white to indicate a slower vehicle in front of you? If so, then it would seem that the 1st lap out with this group is a hot lap, and not really a "warm up" lap. You would think that they would cover this kind of thing in the drivers' meeting.

Originally Posted by Dave 86 930 Fl

Bob,

While I can appreciate your opinion, I measure my performance based on decreasing my lap times. I have talked with Dave Scott about working with me, but there are some areas I need to work on before I waste his time.

Regards, Dave

Originally Posted by Dave 86 930 Fl

PBOC's driver's meeting is fairly light and they do not provide any information in their registration package wrt track rules, such as point-bys and passing zones (solo).

Chin Motorsports, on the other hand, does a very comprehensive driver's meeting.

Chin's dedication to safety is obvious and I applaud Mark Hicks (GM) and his passion for the sport and the safety of those involved.

Regards, Dave