Heel and Toe Vids
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The first car I learned heal-toe on was a 944, and I was never really comfortable doing it on the street (where I practiced it) because the brake seemed to be too far off the floor in relation to the gas. But the first time I tried it on track, I realized that I was pushing the brake much harder, and the two pedals were perfectly aligned.
A side benefit of heal-toe is that it helps you spot a soft brake pedal faster. I was in the SRF at VIR and noticed that my heal-toe was getting really sloppy. Turns out the brake pedal was sinking very slowly in relation to the gas pedal. I might not have noticed that so quickly if I had not been heal-toeing.
A side benefit of heal-toe is that it helps you spot a soft brake pedal faster. I was in the SRF at VIR and noticed that my heal-toe was getting really sloppy. Turns out the brake pedal was sinking very slowly in relation to the gas pedal. I might not have noticed that so quickly if I had not been heal-toeing.
#18
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No I didn't...a poster before me mentioned double clutching and I merely asked why one would want to in a healthy syncro tranny.
Having learned to double clutch in the old wheat trucks and Dad's old Springer (hate to say it, but since around 1965), I'm aware of what it is.
Sorry about the hijack....
No I didn't...a poster before me mentioned double clutching and I merely asked why one would want to in a healthy syncro tranny.
Having learned to double clutch in the old wheat trucks and Dad's old Springer (hate to say it, but since around 1965), I'm aware of what it is.
Sorry about the hijack....
I once practiced double-clutching (just to learn it for **** and giggles), what a PITA that is, I'm glad of syncros...
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not me, but in my mind, this is how I do it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZeuSgEj4
only able to to this on the track under hard breaking. With a light break, its impossible for me to get my heal down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZeuSgEj4
only able to to this on the track under hard breaking. With a light break, its impossible for me to get my heal down.
#24
Three Wheelin'
All variations on a theme. You do it the way you are comfortable once the pedal ergonomics are dialed in. No lap time to be gained there. I would also think that equipment reliability is most affected by what you do with the shifter.
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Although the focus of this thread is heel/toe, my $.02 is to balance the car using all the tools available which may mean LFB as well. I find it helpful in my '78 911 when trying to keep the car balanced.
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#26
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Not that I disagree with you, but there is the potential of losing time if you're method isn't right. Let me qualify it with an example. Spent some time in a Solstice and was pivoting (toes on brake/heel to gas), but due to the seating position I was actually coming off the brake slightly trying to get my heel to the gas. I was inadvertently lengthening my brake distances. Switched over and started rolling my foot to get the gas and that all cleared up. I do completely agree that the ergonomics need to be setup so that its a comfortable movement and easy to perform.
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I can't fathom how Walter R. could do all THAT, while flying down a tunnel of stupid humans... all waving from the edges of his vision. How can you drive that well, while being inches away from all those people?
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By being such a good driver that the act of driving is subconscious, heal toe, LFB, etc. are all muscle memory and he can devote all his mental energy towards reading the terrain. There is a great interview with Sebastian Loeb in the current issue of Red Bull magazine where he talks about how subconscious his driving is and how he is mainly focused on the train and communication with his co-driver.