FredC... what did you think of Conti GS?
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That will definitely help the 3.4 car get off the corner. Will the ST guys also get to benefit in the 987?
An alternative final drive. GA has taken an "it's got to be a production piece before we'll approve it" approach. I've got the ring and pinions being cut as we speak. Once I have them in hand, GA will let us put them in a car and test them and then give the final thumbs up or thumbs down. Right now, we're cautiously optimistic.
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Good job Fred. I've seen Baron drive, and the two of you make a great combo.
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Most of the 987 Boxsters already run the 986 6spd gearbox. It's got shorter gears than the 987 6spd. I don't expect that the rule makers are going to alter the allowed ratios a class down IF they allow it in GS.
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An alternative final drive. GA has taken an "it's got to be a production piece before we'll approve it" approach. I've got the ring and pinions being cut as we speak. Once I have them in hand, GA will let us put them in a car and test them and then give the final thumbs up or thumbs down. Right now, we're cautiously optimistic.
the subaru...forget abou tit. nissan...same thing.
you'd think after watching cayman after cayman, with great drivers in it, get swamped over and over, would give the car either a bigger weight reduction, or allow something aftermarket to give it a bit more torque.
HP is nice, but torque wins these races. and unfortunately, the cayman doesn not have the pop to go out of the corner with a mustang, camaro or bmw.
even with the most amazing driver. someone who cant drive slows u up in the turn, you have to break , then its who has the umph.
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thats funny stuff. maybe GA ought to tak ea peak at the mustangs and camaro which probably, when done, have very little chevy and ford original stuff within. ive heard ford guys are all running new gearing, and modded trans.
the subaru...forget abou tit. nissan...same thing.
you'd think after watching cayman after cayman, with great drivers in it, get swamped over and over, would give the car either a bigger weight reduction, or allow something aftermarket to give it a bit more torque.
HP is nice, but torque wins these races. and unfortunately, the cayman doesn not have the pop to go out of the corner with a mustang, camaro or bmw.
even with the most amazing driver. someone who cant drive slows u up in the turn, you have to break , then its who has the umph.
the subaru...forget abou tit. nissan...same thing.
you'd think after watching cayman after cayman, with great drivers in it, get swamped over and over, would give the car either a bigger weight reduction, or allow something aftermarket to give it a bit more torque.
HP is nice, but torque wins these races. and unfortunately, the cayman doesn not have the pop to go out of the corner with a mustang, camaro or bmw.
even with the most amazing driver. someone who cant drive slows u up in the turn, you have to break , then its who has the umph.
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thats funny stuff. maybe GA ought to tak ea peak at the mustangs and camaro which probably, when done, have very little chevy and ford original stuff within. ive heard ford guys are all running new gearing, and modded trans.
the subaru...forget abou tit. nissan...same thing.
you'd think after watching cayman after cayman, with great drivers in it, get swamped over and over, would give the car either a bigger weight reduction, or allow something aftermarket to give it a bit more torque.
HP is nice, but torque wins these races. and unfortunately, the cayman doesn not have the pop to go out of the corner with a mustang, camaro or bmw.
even with the most amazing driver. someone who cant drive slows u up in the turn, you have to break , then its who has the umph.
the subaru...forget abou tit. nissan...same thing.
you'd think after watching cayman after cayman, with great drivers in it, get swamped over and over, would give the car either a bigger weight reduction, or allow something aftermarket to give it a bit more torque.
HP is nice, but torque wins these races. and unfortunately, the cayman doesn not have the pop to go out of the corner with a mustang, camaro or bmw.
even with the most amazing driver. someone who cant drive slows u up in the turn, you have to break , then its who has the umph.
Every car has pro's and cons. Personally I have been shocked at how close the Camaro is to stock.
I'd suggest walking through the paddock and looking at the teams. The worst GS team is doing a very good job of car prep and the back of the pack drivers are pretty competitive club guys. It's a very deep field.
I look forward to meeting Fred at Mid O.
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The Camaro is pretty much a "spec" car which can either be purchased from Reilly or buit to match Rielly's spec. The Mustang you buy from Ford and pretty much is also a spec car. As far as I know the others are more open.
Every car has pro's and cons. Personally I have been shocked at how close the Camaro is to stock.
I'd suggest walking through the paddock and looking at the teams. The worst GS team is doing a very good job of car prep and the back of the pack drivers are pretty competitive club guys. It's a very deep field.
I look forward to meeting Fred at Mid O.
Every car has pro's and cons. Personally I have been shocked at how close the Camaro is to stock.
I'd suggest walking through the paddock and looking at the teams. The worst GS team is doing a very good job of car prep and the back of the pack drivers are pretty competitive club guys. It's a very deep field.
I look forward to meeting Fred at Mid O.
For those that don't know, dmundy currently drives a Camaro in Conti so that is pretty valid input from him.
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FYI this race will air Jul 30, 3:00 PM ET, on SPEED. I'll be at Mosport but will watch it a couple times when I return.
We learned a ton at NJMP. We proved that the car can run with most of the GS pack, finally. It was so damn hot at NJMP, we probably set a record for the hottest coolant temp. Dan said we used 200 pounds of ice Thursday; we had 3 PCA Club Race cars in addition to the GS car. Can't wait to do the next race with Dan, Fred and Baron.
We learned a ton at NJMP. We proved that the car can run with most of the GS pack, finally. It was so damn hot at NJMP, we probably set a record for the hottest coolant temp. Dan said we used 200 pounds of ice Thursday; we had 3 PCA Club Race cars in addition to the GS car. Can't wait to do the next race with Dan, Fred and Baron.
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It's too bad Grand Am doesn't allow the 997 GT3 to run in GS, it's a direct competitor to the M3......drop a cage in the car as it's close to the weight it would run. I would think GA would see 8-10 of these cars within a few months!
Tecce would love to run GT3's........right John?![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I remember driving one of BGB's 997's at Miller and you have to drive that car, or any Porsche in GS, 100% at the limit just to keep up with the V8's....which can be driven 80% in the corners and you still couldn't get a run out of a corner.
I know I have 3 clients right now with GT3's that would convert their car to GS specs if it was allowed in the series.
Maybe I'm dreaming but just think about how many drivers in these cars are looking for a place to play with them.
Tecce would love to run GT3's........right John?
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I remember driving one of BGB's 997's at Miller and you have to drive that car, or any Porsche in GS, 100% at the limit just to keep up with the V8's....which can be driven 80% in the corners and you still couldn't get a run out of a corner.
I know I have 3 clients right now with GT3's that would convert their car to GS specs if it was allowed in the series.
Maybe I'm dreaming but just think about how many drivers in these cars are looking for a place to play with them.
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I guess it's pretty simple - if nobody else ends up being competitive all will end up in a V8 car of some sort. I'm guessing BMW torque is nowhere near the American V8s, right? I haven't seen BMW win any races recently, although they are still running towards the front.