Performance Friction 08 compound
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Does anyone know why the PFC 7819 pad shape (GT2/GT3/997tt) is quite a bit narrower than the Pagid 2707 pad shape? You can see this below when compared to a pad (Pagid 2707 shape) which fits perfectly in conjunction with 350mm rotors and the GT3 six pot calipers. The PFC pads fit the Porsche 6 pot front calipers but there is about a 1/4" gap between the base of the pad and the bottom edge of the rotor surface. In other words, the PFC pad should be wider in order to sit on the whole rotor. The top radius of the PFC 7819 pad is greater than the radius of a 350mm rotor which does not seem correct either. I almost seems that the radius of the PFC pad is made to go with a smaller diameter rotor. Anyone have any ideas? Just to clarify, the black pad in the picture below is PFC 7819.06.17.44
Mike
PFC had some incorrect fitment info that keeps coming back into their database. They had pads for the 944 TS listed as fitting the NA 944. The correct data would be shown in the PFC catalog the next year, and then be wrong when the next catalog came out. Dam databases. As far as what's available for Porsches, we do have pads that no one else has, both compounds and cars. We've been working with PFC pads for 20+ years. I know the older cars best while Mark Frances knows what works for the newer cars. If you have any questions let us know.
Bill
PFC had some incorrect fitment info that keeps coming back into their database. They had pads for the 944 TS listed as fitting the NA 944. The correct data would be shown in the PFC catalog the next year, and then be wrong when the next catalog came out. Dam databases. As far as what's available for Porsches, we do have pads that no one else has, both compounds and cars. We've been working with PFC pads for 20+ years. I know the older cars best while Mark Frances knows what works for the newer cars. If you have any questions let us know.
Bill
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It appears the PFC you have is shaped like a Pagid 8004 not a 2707. The 8004 fits the later GT3 cars but can be used in place of a 2707 if needed. I posted pics in different thread showing the difference in the pads, here they are again.
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I have run PFC 08 on my 997C2S race car for the last year.
I came from Pagid Yellows and WOW, what a difference.. these babies bite and hold.. you get the same bite from start to finish..
I hated how the yellows did not have that initial bite and torque I was looking for.
I'm a PFC user for life.
Mike, I buy our pads from OG Racing and I use StopTech fronts and Carrera S rears (still have stock calipers rear)
I know they make the 08's for the Carrera S, because I have them on my car.. call OG Racing
I came from Pagid Yellows and WOW, what a difference.. these babies bite and hold.. you get the same bite from start to finish..
I hated how the yellows did not have that initial bite and torque I was looking for.
I'm a PFC user for life.
Mike, I buy our pads from OG Racing and I use StopTech fronts and Carrera S rears (still have stock calipers rear)
I know they make the 08's for the Carrera S, because I have them on my car.. call OG Racing
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Moronic or OG racing ....Performance Friction makes 08 pads for stock 2005-2012 Carrera S calipers/rotors? I was told no on this....
Also I just looked at my old Pagid yellows and some ols stock fronts and the PFC 01 pads I just got don't have the same pad surface shape...? What the heck is going on with these PFC pads?
Also I just looked at my old Pagid yellows and some ols stock fronts and the PFC 01 pads I just got don't have the same pad surface shape...? What the heck is going on with these PFC pads?
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Mike... busted... looks like the ones I have are 06 compound.. not 08... i just looked at my invoice...
part number I have for rears are: PF07760617
All I know is whatever pad I have (06 I guess) I will never go back to pagids....
part number I have for rears are: PF07760617
All I know is whatever pad I have (06 I guess) I will never go back to pagids....
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Thanks for the honesty and double checking....I have a new set of 01's for all 4 corners for some up coming DEs.
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I know it's not apples to apples, but I just ran 01 front/rear at the Glen on my Boxster instead of the 97 which I have always used. It was night and day in a good way. Much more stable braking and initial bite was significantly better (using stock rotors).
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Does anyone know why the PFC 7819 pad shape (GT2/GT3/997tt) is quite a bit narrower than the Pagid 2707 pad shape? You can see this below when compared to a pad (Pagid 2707 shape) which fits perfectly in conjunction with 350mm rotors and the GT3 six pot calipers. The PFC pads fit the Porsche 6 pot front calipers but there is about a 1/4" gap between the base of the pad and the bottom edge of the rotor surface. In other words, the PFC pad should be wider in order to sit on the whole rotor. The top radius of the PFC 7819 pad is greater than the radius of a 350mm rotor which does not seem correct either. I almost seems that the radius of the PFC pad is made to go with a smaller diameter rotor. Anyone have any ideas? Just to clarify, the black pad in the picture below is PFC 7819.06.17.44
Bill
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Thanks! I used the 97 years ago and thought those had the hand of god bite but also lots of heat transfer to the caliper so I went back to Pagid. I'm going to try the 01's this time but now I tend to brake less and do not stab the pedal and I'm using those titanium shims and GT2 brake ducts...so hopefully this is better and the 01's will fell better longer than the Pagids do.
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OK, that would explain it than because if the radius of the pad is shaped to fit a small 318mm rotor then when used on the larger rotor the result is what I show in my pictures. It seems it would be a much better solution to manufacture the proper pad shape for each application as Pagid does to get a perfect fit as opposed to this one size fits all approach. It seems that we are leaving a good bit of pad surface area on the table by not having a proper full size pad as in the Pagid 2707 pad shape.