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Old 05-18-2016, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kespiritu10
Been lurking the forums since I plan on either a Cayman GT4 or 997 GT3/or RS in the future. I'm currently doing NASA right now (started in 2015 w/two events), but I had a few questions. 1.) The reason I chose the GT4 is I don't want to purchase a car that is above my driving limits. I realized power isn't everything after a a few trackdays. 2.) I'm still learning the ropes, but how can you truly tell where the limits are of a tire? I'm currently using a set of Yokohama Advan AD08R's. I've been told, you can feel it and hear it. I'd rather not push myself to a point that I make a mistake and end up crashing. I have a few videos if you don't mind me posting? Thanks for your input. Just trying to play it safe and avoid causing injury to myself and others on the track.
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Be NICE, Scott!
Hey, I just pulled up a chair to watch the show!
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I apologize if this has been answered somewhere in this thread. Probably not the best first post. Here are a few videos.


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Night DE? That takes things up a notch.

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Originally Posted by TXE36
Night DE? That takes things up a notch.

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Yup, first one. I had a few months hiatus till this track night. I ran this same course in the day time. The biggest thing I noticed is how much different it is hitting the apex and same line. It was a learning experience, but I felt like I had improved. I was much slower in the beginning.

What'd you think though? Decent for my second track day?
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Originally Posted by kespiritu10
Yup, first one. I had a few months hiatus till this track night. I ran this same course in the day time. The biggest thing I noticed is how much different it is hitting the apex and same line. It was a learning experience, but I felt like I had improved. I was much slower in the beginning.

What'd you think though? Decent for my second track day?
Sure, I'd call it decent. Smooth inputs and it appeared you hit a lot of the apexes, but big caveat: I'm not familiar with the track and with the darkness it was hard to make stuff out. I suspect the darkness makes looking ahead more challenging than during the day.

I've never driven on the track in the dark and I'm just a weekend volunteer PCA instructor. Perhaps one of the coaches will offer something up.

I guess that's a great way to beat the heat in Arizona.

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At two track days, how you are doing isn't particularly relavent to how you may do in the long run. It's too early to worry about it. Get some seat time and instruction. Have fun. Worry about how you "are doing" down the road.
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
Dan Clarke and Grant Maiman are both excellent and in that general area of the country.
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And any good coach will travel wherever clients need him/her. Those are both fun tracks!
Thank you for the information!

I'm not sure if it would be worth it for me to cover someone's trip out here. I'm just a hobbyist and the level of in-car instruction I can receive is severely limited by a substantial hearing loss (hopefully this is going to change thanks to a new helmet w/integrated electronics).

Being an engineer, I'm fascinated w/the thought of getting to analyze data from a pro in my car.
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Originally Posted by mglobe
At two track days, how you are doing isn't particularly relavent to how you may do in the long run. It's too early to worry about it. Get some seat time and instruction. Have fun. Worry about how you "are doing" down the road.
Agreed
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Originally Posted by dgm8138
Thank you for the information!

Being an engineer, I'm fascinated w/the thought of getting to analyze data from a pro in my car.
I think either Dan (former IndyCar driver) or Grant (former Red Bull USA finalist) could provide you with reference data (a reference lap) that could keep you learning for YEARS... Plus, they're cool to hang out with. Both these guys are pretty fluent with data and VERY good with in-car video.
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Originally Posted by TXE36
Sure, I'd call it decent. Smooth inputs and it appeared you hit a lot of the apexes, but big caveat: I'm not familiar with the track and with the darkness it was hard to make stuff out. I suspect the darkness makes looking ahead more challenging than during the day.

I've never driven on the track in the dark and I'm just a weekend volunteer PCA instructor. Perhaps one of the coaches will offer something up.

I guess that's a great way to beat the heat in Arizona.

-Mike
I appreciate the feedback. Yeah, it was better than driving during the summers.
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Originally Posted by mglobe
At two track days, how you are doing isn't particularly relavent to how you may do in the long run. It's too early to worry about it. Get some seat time and instruction. Have fun. Worry about how you "are doing" down the road.
Thanks Mike for the feedback.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Agreed
Thanks as well Veloce Raptor. I just feel like there is something I can improve upon even if it was a small area.
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Originally Posted by kespiritu10
Been lurking the forums since I plan on either a Cayman GT4 or 997 GT3/or RS in the future. I'm currently doing NASA right now (started in 2015 w/two events), but I had a few questions.

1.) The reason I chose the GT4 is I don't want to purchase a car that is above my driving limits. I realized power isn't everything after a a few trackdays.

2.) I'm still learning the ropes, but how can you truly tell where the limits are of a tire? I'm currently using a set of Yokohama Advan AD08R's. I've been told, you can feel it and hear it. I'd rather not push myself to a point that I make a mistake and end up crashing.

I have a few videos if you don't mind me posting?

Thanks for your input. Just trying to play it safe and avoid causing injury to myself and others on the track.
Regarding feeling the limits of grip, something that helped me was car control school (skidpad, etc.) where you can slide and spin safely. Anything similar in your area? Maybe check with your PCA region. Other options are Porsche Sport Driving school at Barber MSP and the Porsche center in Atlanta. Those programs are a bit expensive but very good. Best of luck.
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I'll be back in Atlanta next year so I've been planning on that driving experience they offer.


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