It's official. I'm a racer. (SCCA Novice).
03-23-2011, 01:09 PM
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Congrats on your racing license. The SRF must be a fun car. I have only tried it in iRacing, but computer racing is just not the same thing. I keep joking with people, if you want to make computer racing more realistic, we only need to have someone standing next to you as you drive on the computer and then have them hit your every time you have an incident (or an off) and then have them deduct money from your bank account.
Good luck with your racing and if possible post video.
Good luck with your racing and if possible post video.
PS: I'm told that the SRF in iRacing is modeled wrong -- it's nowhere near as tail happy as the game makes it seem.
03-23-2011, 02:00 PM
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I keep joking with people, if you want to make computer racing more realistic, we only need to have someone standing next to you as you drive on the computer and then have them hit your every time you have an incident (or an off) and then have them deduct money from your bank account.
I have to say though, driving these cars in a tactile feedback simulator makes everything seem much easier to drive. It's just more intuitive. I frequently drive other, static simulator setups and I'm all over the place trying to figure out what the car is doing. With these complex physics models and laser scanned tracks, it really help to be able to feel all tiny sensations of the chassis and tire patch.
03-23-2011, 02:26 PM
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You can get the SRF to run pretty close but you have to do some pretty wonky stuff to the setup that you'd never do in real life. It's not as fast but it's much more realistic.
03-23-2011, 02:54 PM
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06-13-2011, 02:32 PM
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Update:
Had my first "real" racing this weekend. It was HUMBLING. As a long-time HPDE guy, on my "home" track, I was capable of good, solo lap times. But racing is an entirely different animal. Sensory overload is an huge understatement. I got abused on the starts (losing two spots on each day), and passing was much more difficult than I thought it would be. Most passes are in braking zones (they either end there, or take place there) and require precision and trust (and I started the weekend with a shortage of both). In a 20 lap race, I spent about 18 laps trying to figure out how to get around two guys ahead of me, even though I had a clear advantage on several parts of the track. In two races I ended up 8 of 12 and then 10 of 12. I think running in a single class session with spec cars, the ability to capitalize on the mistakes of others is even less likely.
By the end of the second race, I felt 10X more comfortable in traffic and I am looking forward to making moves in my next event. Most importantly, I started, finished and got my ticket punched. One more and I have my regional license.
So, for HPDE guys looking to go racing, I say DO IT but do not expect HPDE proficiency to translate into racing proficiency, unless you can qualify P1 and run laps on an empty track!
Had my first "real" racing this weekend. It was HUMBLING. As a long-time HPDE guy, on my "home" track, I was capable of good, solo lap times. But racing is an entirely different animal. Sensory overload is an huge understatement. I got abused on the starts (losing two spots on each day), and passing was much more difficult than I thought it would be. Most passes are in braking zones (they either end there, or take place there) and require precision and trust (and I started the weekend with a shortage of both). In a 20 lap race, I spent about 18 laps trying to figure out how to get around two guys ahead of me, even though I had a clear advantage on several parts of the track. In two races I ended up 8 of 12 and then 10 of 12. I think running in a single class session with spec cars, the ability to capitalize on the mistakes of others is even less likely.
By the end of the second race, I felt 10X more comfortable in traffic and I am looking forward to making moves in my next event. Most importantly, I started, finished and got my ticket punched. One more and I have my regional license.
So, for HPDE guys looking to go racing, I say DO IT but do not expect HPDE proficiency to translate into racing proficiency, unless you can qualify P1 and run laps on an empty track!
06-13-2011, 02:54 PM
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Very cool, nice job - you survived!
06-13-2011, 03:07 PM
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Congrats!
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06-13-2011, 03:23 PM
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By the end of the second race, I felt 10X more comfortable in traffic and I am looking forward to making moves in my next event. Most importantly, I started, finished and got my ticket punched. One more and I have my regional license.
So, for HPDE guys looking to go racing, I say DO IT but do not expect HPDE proficiency to translate into racing proficiency, unless you can qualify P1 and run laps on an empty track!
So, for HPDE guys looking to go racing, I say DO IT but do not expect HPDE proficiency to translate into racing proficiency, unless you can qualify P1 and run laps on an empty track!
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06-13-2011, 05:39 PM
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It ended up being a good weekend. Honestly, by Saturday night I was wondering if I should go back to playing golf! Sunday was redeeming.
It's frustrating to feel incompetent, but exciting when you see the areas that need improving. Besides, I've done golf for decades and I'm still incompetent.
It's frustrating to feel incompetent, but exciting when you see the areas that need improving. Besides, I've done golf for decades and I'm still incompetent.
06-13-2011, 11:23 PM
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Update:
Had my first "real" racing this weekend. It was HUMBLING. As a long-time HPDE guy, on my "home" track, I was capable of good, solo lap times. But racing is an entirely different animal. Sensory overload is an huge understatement. I got abused on the starts (losing two spots on each day), and passing was much more difficult than I thought it would be. Most passes are in braking zones (they either end there, or take place there) and require precision and trust (and I started the weekend with a shortage of both). In a 20 lap race, I spent about 18 laps trying to figure out how to get around two guys ahead of me, even though I had a clear advantage on several parts of the track. In two races I ended up 8 of 12 and then 10 of 12. I think running in a single class session with spec cars, the ability to capitalize on the mistakes of others is even less likely.
By the end of the second race, I felt 10X more comfortable in traffic and I am looking forward to making moves in my next event. Most importantly, I started, finished and got my ticket punched. One more and I have my regional license.
So, for HPDE guys looking to go racing, I say DO IT but do not expect HPDE proficiency to translate into racing proficiency, unless you can qualify P1 and run laps on an empty track!
Had my first "real" racing this weekend. It was HUMBLING. As a long-time HPDE guy, on my "home" track, I was capable of good, solo lap times. But racing is an entirely different animal. Sensory overload is an huge understatement. I got abused on the starts (losing two spots on each day), and passing was much more difficult than I thought it would be. Most passes are in braking zones (they either end there, or take place there) and require precision and trust (and I started the weekend with a shortage of both). In a 20 lap race, I spent about 18 laps trying to figure out how to get around two guys ahead of me, even though I had a clear advantage on several parts of the track. In two races I ended up 8 of 12 and then 10 of 12. I think running in a single class session with spec cars, the ability to capitalize on the mistakes of others is even less likely.
By the end of the second race, I felt 10X more comfortable in traffic and I am looking forward to making moves in my next event. Most importantly, I started, finished and got my ticket punched. One more and I have my regional license.
So, for HPDE guys looking to go racing, I say DO IT but do not expect HPDE proficiency to translate into racing proficiency, unless you can qualify P1 and run laps on an empty track!
06-13-2011, 11:40 PM
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Update:
Had my first "real" racing this weekend. It was HUMBLING. As a long-time HPDE guy, on my "home" track, I was capable of good, solo lap times. But racing is an entirely different animal. Sensory overload is an huge understatement. I got abused on the starts (losing two spots on each day), and passing was much more difficult than I thought it would be. Most passes are in braking zones (they either end there, or take place there) and require precision and trust (and I started the weekend with a shortage of both). In a 20 lap race, I spent about 18 laps trying to figure out how to get around two guys ahead of me, even though I had a clear advantage on several parts of the track. In two races I ended up 8 of 12 and then 10 of 12. I think running in a single class session with spec cars, the ability to capitalize on the mistakes of others is even less likely.
By the end of the second race, I felt 10X more comfortable in traffic and I am looking forward to making moves in my next event. Most importantly, I started, finished and got my ticket punched. One more and I have my regional license.
So, for HPDE guys looking to go racing, I say DO IT but do not expect HPDE proficiency to translate into racing proficiency, unless you can qualify P1 and run laps on an empty track!
Had my first "real" racing this weekend. It was HUMBLING. As a long-time HPDE guy, on my "home" track, I was capable of good, solo lap times. But racing is an entirely different animal. Sensory overload is an huge understatement. I got abused on the starts (losing two spots on each day), and passing was much more difficult than I thought it would be. Most passes are in braking zones (they either end there, or take place there) and require precision and trust (and I started the weekend with a shortage of both). In a 20 lap race, I spent about 18 laps trying to figure out how to get around two guys ahead of me, even though I had a clear advantage on several parts of the track. In two races I ended up 8 of 12 and then 10 of 12. I think running in a single class session with spec cars, the ability to capitalize on the mistakes of others is even less likely.
By the end of the second race, I felt 10X more comfortable in traffic and I am looking forward to making moves in my next event. Most importantly, I started, finished and got my ticket punched. One more and I have my regional license.
So, for HPDE guys looking to go racing, I say DO IT but do not expect HPDE proficiency to translate into racing proficiency, unless you can qualify P1 and run laps on an empty track!
Great insights and great lessons learned in your first outing.
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06-13-2011, 11:44 PM
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You may want to, if you haven't already, stop by and check out the content on RacerUniversity.com - it should help you bridge that gap of knowledge from turning laps to getting into the fight...