Hoosier R6 vs BFG R1
03-08-2011, 08:40 PM
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Slicks are faster than DOT's.
Now in deciding when a particular tire falls off it's prime. Well that depends on a few things.
One being the compound, obviously a softer compound will fall off a little sooner.
Second, most drivers really aren't pushing the tires 100% and if you are not pushing it that hard then you will get more heat cycles before you really loose any time. This is why pro teams will discard tires after a few heat cycles and then others pick them up at a discount and feel that they have a lot of life left in them. As well, some of these drivers having never driven on the new stickers can relate to any difference.
Third, some people want a tire that is a 90 or 95% tire that will give them 90-95% of the stick of the best tire yet will last longer or be more consistent overall.
Now in deciding when a particular tire falls off it's prime. Well that depends on a few things.
One being the compound, obviously a softer compound will fall off a little sooner.
Second, most drivers really aren't pushing the tires 100% and if you are not pushing it that hard then you will get more heat cycles before you really loose any time. This is why pro teams will discard tires after a few heat cycles and then others pick them up at a discount and feel that they have a lot of life left in them. As well, some of these drivers having never driven on the new stickers can relate to any difference.
Third, some people want a tire that is a 90 or 95% tire that will give them 90-95% of the stick of the best tire yet will last longer or be more consistent overall.
Where's forklift with his graph??
03-08-2011, 08:44 PM
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03-09-2011, 12:06 AM
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Lol. How fast you go is directly proportional to the depth of those things on the side of your pants....
03-09-2011, 01:25 PM
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The key is to make the chassis work with that tire. I wouldn't run the same shock, swaybar, or even spring rate on a car with NT01's vs a Hoosier.
03-09-2011, 02:25 PM
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03-09-2011, 04:21 PM
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03-09-2011, 04:22 PM
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Any tire will work on a chassis that is setup for them. Hoosiers and Hankooks are very similar, benefit being, the Hankook compound seems to be more consistant through a heat cycle than a Hoosier.
The key is to make the chassis work with that tire. I wouldn't run the same shock, swaybar, or even spring rate on a car with NT01's vs a Hoosier.
The key is to make the chassis work with that tire. I wouldn't run the same shock, swaybar, or even spring rate on a car with NT01's vs a Hoosier.
03-09-2011, 04:23 PM
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03-09-2011, 05:04 PM
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So I got to try a set of Hoosier R6's...previously I had BFG R1's...I was a bit worried since I ran 245/45-16 all around on 8" wheels....and the Hoosiers were 225/50-16 in front and 245/45-16 in rear....but it worked out nicely....on the 8' rims you could hardly tell which tires were wider....
My impressions on track were quite a bit different than the R1's....the R1's were very much "velcro"....in other words once they start to slide (large slip angle) the available traction drops off a cliff....so it takes a serious correction and huge reduction of speed to save the slide.....but the Hoosiers are much more forgiving....they have near the peak traction of the R1's...but allow a much greater slip angle while still retaining good traction.... so I found them much easier to control vs the R1's..... My personal best lap times between the two are within .04 second...so its very close...but I just feel the Hoosiers are easier to drive....
My impressions on track were quite a bit different than the R1's....the R1's were very much "velcro"....in other words once they start to slide (large slip angle) the available traction drops off a cliff....so it takes a serious correction and huge reduction of speed to save the slide.....but the Hoosiers are much more forgiving....they have near the peak traction of the R1's...but allow a much greater slip angle while still retaining good traction.... so I found them much easier to control vs the R1's..... My personal best lap times between the two are within .04 second...so its very close...but I just feel the Hoosiers are easier to drive....
This isn't true across the board. I've been contemplating the switch from R1's to R6's for a while now and have compared several sizes side to side. For example: The R6 225/40 is healthy and only marginally smaller (maybe 1/16th) than the 235/40 R1. On the other hand, the R6 245/40 is significantly smaller (I believe 3/16ths) than the 255/40 R1.
03-09-2011, 05:18 PM
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