multi21

We're at $90 oil now and it's the low peak season. With China's unquenchable thirst and OPEC's reluctance to increase production, we're headed back to $120 oil and +$4 per gallon at the pumps this summer. That's why having a fuel efficent tow vehicle (when not toying like Joe pointed out) would be the ticket.

If you could get >25 mph when empty in a SUV for the family that can tow 9-10k, I'd buy it in a heartbeat too and diesel is probably the only way to do it.

Just for reference, when I bought my Yukon XL in 2000, gas was around $1.20 a gallon in Cali, oil somewhere around $15-20 a barrel.

Veloce Raptor

Part of the problem is that a diesel 3/4 toon Suburban wouuld sticker at 50k or more. The market for a 50k Suburban, when oil is high & thus the economy is low, is very small.








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multi21

Very true and if oil gets much higher those will sit on the lot except for those that need the room/towing capacity.

M758

They already sticker that high. Just run the numbers.

My personally feeling is that there is a lot extra profit in those. Come on a diesel crew cab 2500 at 50k? That is stupid money, but it is what they are charging.


Of course if I could get good gas mileage and tow 8k safely (not with a 1/2 ton load to limit such a load) I would pay a bit more. As it stands I cannot afford to replace my daily driver with something that can tow. I have 80 mile round trip to work and while my current 8.0L 2500 dodge can tow it only gets 12 mpg empty. I just can't do that daily. However since it is a 99 it is not worth much so ideal for towing/hauling only.

multi21

That's another reason I won't sell the 2000 Yukon XL. Virtually no resale $$ and because of relatively poor mileage, it sits unless it has to tow... no way is it a daily driver hence if there was a diesel SUV that could get mid 20s MPG which is double what we're getting now from the gas XL, I could cut down on insuring 2 vehicles and get 1, but that initial buy in is very expensive...

FrankyV

Almost all gas Suburbans (1500 or 2500) sticker over $50k and you would think demand would be down with gas over $3 but I could not find any 2010s left and most dealers willing to take only the $2000 GM rebate off sticker on 2011s. Finally got a good deal at Sport Chevrolet in Silver Spring, sticker $50,070 for a stripped 2500 LT, and they took off about 12% to $44,300.

FrankyV

I got $5,500 for my 2001 Suburban 2500 with dents, rust, broken A/C and leaky exhaust manifolds on a trade in for a new one.

gums

So, where do you guys suggest I look for my Yukon Denali?
At the dealer, or ?????

FrankyV

Where do you get your facts, Rush Limbaugh? Everyone knows he is a big fat idiot. Feds are in line to make a huge profit on their GM investment, it was not a handout.

FrankyV

Franz, Yukons are overpriced Suburbans that are not as attractively syled. If going new, you wil get a better deal on the Chevy.

gums

I'm thinking low mileage (30k) used, and Yukon Denali because I don't want the full length version.

Potomac-Greg

The way I like to characterize it (a-politically) is it was a bankruptcy where the US Government acted as the lender of last resort, and as such behaved exactly as any similarly situated lender would act. You don't dump billions into an investment without taking out a huge stake.

At the time, I felt quite strongly that the government should have let GM collapse, with the viable parts re-emerging, but as things rebound I'm moderating in my view.

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FrankyV

I concede, I oversimplified. One thing that bothered me with the Yukon XL is to get the 6.2 liter engine you had to get top of the line Denali with Autoride supension, which is a half ton model with a maximum rear end ratio of 3.42. To not put you biggest engine in the 3/4 ton chassis is odd.

Veloce Raptor

Biggest engine does not mean necessarily better. The 6.0 in the 2500 model is more suited for heavy duty towing on a regular basis IMO.









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