should both seats be the same for DE?
#17
Gary summed it up accurately - as usual. What's good for the student is good for the instructor. One of my students was so safety minded as to suggest I bring my Hans if I have one. Same seats and harnesses. Imagine your student is in a shell with hans and you are in a stock seat with factory 3-points.
#18
I was searching on Ebay and found this ad, it looks like those seats can recline so I could possibly use it on a passenger side.
does anybody know anything about this product? it does look like crap, but for $300...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RA...item2a0b1084cc
does anybody know anything about this product? it does look like crap, but for $300...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RA...item2a0b1084cc
And you can have harnesses and retain your 3 point belts for street use.
#19
Thanks for the hint, I will try to hunt for those during winter. It is indeed kinda tricky, only readily available option is a set of GT2 seats from suncoast but it is crazy to shell out $7K for seats alone, at least not on my budget.
#20
Paul,
Take a trip out to HMS in Danvers. They have at least a dozen different seats in their showroom and IMO are very well informed on what works and what doesn't.
I have the 6-GT3 seats in my car and I really like them but there are plenty of alternatives out there that are cheaper and just as good as the P seats. I think you are right that the seats are becoming scarcer: I paid Suncoast about half of what they are now charging for the same seats!
Take a trip out to HMS in Danvers. They have at least a dozen different seats in their showroom and IMO are very well informed on what works and what doesn't.
I have the 6-GT3 seats in my car and I really like them but there are plenty of alternatives out there that are cheaper and just as good as the P seats. I think you are right that the seats are becoming scarcer: I paid Suncoast about half of what they are now charging for the same seats!
#21
The SRD's have been replaced by the Speed model in recaro's lineup. Still far cheaper than GT2 seats.
#22
I think I will settle with pair of RECARO Sportster CS. It would probably work the best for a dual purpose car.
My mechanic proposes to put spg xl on a driver side and either topline or sportster on a passenger side, it is also possible, but I feel I will like sportster better for daily routines than a real bucket like spg.
Thanks for the hint about HMS, Coochas, I will try to to it this weekend. Winter will be long, so, I am not in a rush. But from what I can see on a Recaro web site - Sportster looks perfect, only problem is that it will probably cost at least 2 times more than I was going to spend on this project.
My mechanic proposes to put spg xl on a driver side and either topline or sportster on a passenger side, it is also possible, but I feel I will like sportster better for daily routines than a real bucket like spg.
Thanks for the hint about HMS, Coochas, I will try to to it this weekend. Winter will be long, so, I am not in a rush. But from what I can see on a Recaro web site - Sportster looks perfect, only problem is that it will probably cost at least 2 times more than I was going to spend on this project.
#23
X3 on the Recaro SPG/Speed seets. We have 2 of our cars setup with the Recaro on driver's and stock seat on passenger side. The Recaro's have proper sub-belt holes for the driver to use 5-pt harness while solo. But they also have low bolsters that safely/properly accommodate OEM 3-pt belts, which driver can use if a passenger is present. About $800 new, but they periodically popup for sale used at much less.
#24
Sorry to come in here and be the downer, but this is a ~$50K car with thousands upon thousands further spent on modifications............yet a few hundred in safety equipment is a sticking point?
I was riding in a rollover with 100% stock safety gear in an E36 M3 last month. Very low speed, and everything worked as it should have. Makes you take stock and rethink about how you want to be equipped out there.
I was riding in a rollover with 100% stock safety gear in an E36 M3 last month. Very low speed, and everything worked as it should have. Makes you take stock and rethink about how you want to be equipped out there.
#25
The specifics of the rules have been covered already here, but it's probably also worth noting that instructors always have the option of not riding in a vehicle that they feel does not provide for their safety adequately.
#26
You should stay away from some of those "cheap" seats on ebay. How much testing do you think has been done on them? Probably not much. There are plenty of reasonably priced "sport seats" from known reliable manufacturers.
#28
Heh. sort of. final decision for now will be to get one sportster cs seat in leather, stock passenger seat will stay and both seats will be used with 3point seatbelts until I will get to the point when this car will be ready to complete track transformation, ditch rear seats, get proper rollbar, etc.
will see how new seat will work with stock seatbelt, if it will be less than adequate, then, well, somewhat mid-next-season I will complete this. what I definitely have here is time, there is nowhere to hurry with this at all...
will see how new seat will work with stock seatbelt, if it will be less than adequate, then, well, somewhat mid-next-season I will complete this. what I definitely have here is time, there is nowhere to hurry with this at all...
#29
Heh. sort of. final decision for now will be to get one sportster cs seat in leather, stock passenger seat will stay and both seats will be used with 3point seatbelts until I will get to the point when this car will be ready to complete track transformation, ditch rear seats, get proper rollbar, etc.
will see how new seat will work with stock seatbelt, if it will be less than adequate, then, well, somewhat mid-next-season I will complete this. what I definitely have here is time, there is nowhere to hurry with this at all...
will see how new seat will work with stock seatbelt, if it will be less than adequate, then, well, somewhat mid-next-season I will complete this. what I definitely have here is time, there is nowhere to hurry with this at all...
#30
Heh. sort of. final decision for now will be to get one sportster cs seat in leather, stock passenger seat will stay and both seats will be used with 3point seatbelts until I will get to the point when this car will be ready to complete track transformation, ditch rear seats, get proper rollbar, etc.
will see how new seat will work with stock seatbelt, if it will be less than adequate, then, well, somewhat mid-next-season I will complete this. what I definitely have here is time, there is nowhere to hurry with this at all...
will see how new seat will work with stock seatbelt, if it will be less than adequate, then, well, somewhat mid-next-season I will complete this. what I definitely have here is time, there is nowhere to hurry with this at all...