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Old 09-23-2010, 09:36 AM
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Yes even Patrick Long is driving "flat out..." on the video

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Nice, thanks for posting that video.
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you'd think they could utilize more than just a few camera shots they kept replaying over and over
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Nice shots and idea to make a comparo like this but I can't help to think this has a lot of PR/marketing canned message from the official factory driver. I've never driven a GT3 much less a RSR so don't have any grounds to say this is just marketing vs close to reality. The GT3 IS my dream car, so I want to believe the day I get one I'll be driving a true race car...
Thanks for posting the video.
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Nice one for Quixx! Pat quoted "flat out" in the Road and Track seqment. Awesome!

[edit: did I read the info right - RSR is almost 20 seconds faster on 3 mile course with slicks? I guess that shows my ignorance, as I thought it would be a little closer! ]

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20 seconds? let's see, at our track, Monticello, Patrick Long did a 2min18sec lap in a grand am spec 997.1 cup S. my guess is a stock gt3 would do about 2min45sec at best. RSR probably 5 seconds quicker than the cup S. anyone else have actual data from tracks where all three cars have run?
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Originally Posted by himself
Nice one for Quixx! Pat quoted "flat out" in the Road and Track seqment. Awesome!

[edit: did I read the info right - RSR is almost 20 seconds faster on 3 mile course with slicks? I guess that shows my ignorance, as I thought it would be a little closer! ]

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Seems about right to me. His best was a 1:48 in qual at Miller. I just turned a 2:03 there last weekend, 15 seconds slower. A GT3 on street tires should be another 5 seconds behind me. Where did you read the times?...
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Originally Posted by jamuz
20 seconds? let's see, at our track, Monticello, Patrick Long did a 2min18sec lap in a grand am spec 997.1 cup S. my guess is a stock gt3 would do about 2min45sec at best. RSR probably 5 seconds quicker than the cup S. anyone else have actual data from tracks where all three cars have run?
At Miller the RSR was 7 seconds faster than the 2010 Cups including the Grand Am cups....
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
A GT3 on street tires should be another 5 seconds behind me. Where did you read the times?...
There is a clicky for it! [GT3 was on MPSCups].

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Here's a shortcut. CLICKY HERE
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are those "DOT"s he is using on the GT3, DOT street tires or DOT race tires. I know even at laguna, the GT3s are in the 1:38 to 1:39 range, on DOT race rubber. (Angelelli and another pro did this for a magazine) in street rubber form, like a real street tire, all bets are off. maybe a 1:42 at the very best. Remember WCGT a few years back? Van Overbeek, fitzgerald, in the motorsport upgrade cups on street rubber, could barely break 1:40 in the race.
as soon as those guys went to real DOT race rubber, the times dropped down to the 1:34-5s. (toyo RA1s)

Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
Seems about right to me. His best was a 1:48 in qual at Miller. I just turned a 2:03 there last weekend, 15 seconds slower. A GT3 on street tires should be another 5 seconds behind me. Where did you read the times?...



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