greenhorn`s silly post-event questions :) - Page 3 - Rennlist - Porsche Discussion Forums

Notices
Racing & Drivers Education Forum
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

greenhorn`s silly post-event questions :)

 
Old 08-04-2010, 03:18 PM
  #31  
f1rocks
User
 
f1rocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Brentwood, TN
Posts: 1,896
Default

Originally Posted by Gary R. View Post
Yes, sorry for the idiotic, off topic advice I tried to force on you. I would say ride with an instructor but unless it's a 997S it will probably ruin your reflexes and be a waste of time.
perfect
f1rocks is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 03:32 PM
  #32  
utkinpol
Super User
Thread Starter
 
utkinpol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: MA
Posts: 5,882
Default

Originally Posted by Gary R. View Post
Yes, sorry for the idiotic, off topic advice I tried to force on you. I would say ride with an instructor but unless it's a 997S it will probably ruin your reflexes and be a waste of time.
ok, you are serious (or sarcastic) here, so here is a more or less serious response then.

nope. i had a great instructor. she drives completely different car but as you yourself told me already - it did not matter for first event at all. i did not know the track, i never drove it, i never walked it. it took me whole first day to learn the line.

second day first 2 sessions i still could not drive the line consistently and it came at third event on second day only where i was able to say by feel in my back if I`m going right or wrong in each corner. and only after that we started to go fast - before that i simply let anybody to pass me and was working on line. when it got back i was ale to pass every single car in my group when i wanted it - just because it was working exactly as instructor said - you go fast line at slow speed, then start adding up and you will be fast and it worked.

i know where my limits are well enough as i do spin my car more or less every 2 weeks on purpose in different corners and when i almost went to spin in that corner 1 to 2a transition it did not feel natural to me at all as i do know pretty well after 2 seasons of auto-x when exactly and precisely why my car spins. but it usually does not involve going down from 105mph to 65mph and throwing it from left to right in this way as it not quite same as regular slalom so it is exactly what i get here - where previous experience does not matter and new stuff has to be learned. makes sense?

again, i apologize if my reactions bothered you, but it is just me, when I see that i cannot turn the conversation around i simply do cut it short. it is simpler this way.
utkinpol is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 03:45 PM
  #33  
Trak Ratt
User
 
Trak Ratt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 166
Default

To funny!! Got the link from someone else and have really enjoyed reading this train wreck. Have at it, it's a slow afternoon.
Trak Ratt is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 03:47 PM
  #34  
roundel
User
 
roundel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 16
Default

Originally Posted by utkinpol View Post
i know where my limits are well enough as i do spin my car more or less every 2 weeks on purpose in different corners
I am missing some of your logic here. Methinks not spinning your car more or less every two weeks might be a better indication of knowing your limits.
roundel is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 03:56 PM
  #35  
Gary R.
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Gary R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Valencia, Spain
Posts: 14,920
Default

Originally Posted by roundel View Post
I am missing some of your logic here. Methinks not spinning your car more or less every two weeks might be a better indication of knowing your limits.
He does it on purpose, so it's ok. You must have missed that but no harm no foul.
Gary R. is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 03:57 PM
  #36  
utkinpol
Super User
Thread Starter
 
utkinpol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: MA
Posts: 5,882
Default

Originally Posted by roundel View Post
I am missing some of your logic here. Methinks not spinning your car more or less every two weeks might be a better indication of knowing your limits.
yes and no. if you do want to make a fastest clean run possible you do need to know how much precisely you can afford to overheat your tires at what corner at this particular day and how it will affect your traction at next corner so you keep pushing until it is too much (spin) then take it down so it will work. sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. like last Sunday i did not get it spin at all where i expected it to. nobody`s perfect.

but i do have a feel it is time to stop this. it can continue, my input is not longer relevant here no matter what i say, thread is ruined already.
utkinpol is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 04:02 PM
  #37  
fast_freddy
I Am The Sexual Pope
Rennlist Member
 
fast_freddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vermontingham, Trustafarianland
Posts: 24,203
Default

...
Attached Images  
fast_freddy is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 04:02 PM
  #38  
f1rocks
User
 
f1rocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Brentwood, TN
Posts: 1,896
Default

Originally Posted by utkinpol View Post
my input is not longer relevant here no matter what i say, thread is ruined already.
This thread was ruined by the #5 response.

First rule of thumb on this forum is leave the ego/attitude at the gate before asking for something here. This "jerkfest" as you called it, has some upstanding helpful drovers. A little ribbing is just for fun so lighten up Francis.....

Dangit Freddy beat me to it.
f1rocks is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 04:05 PM
  #39  
Gary R.
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Gary R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Valencia, Spain
Posts: 14,920
Default

Lots of good info here, i'm already thinking about my planned "spin corners" at Limerock in a couple weeks! Don't see why you guys are so negative, we all have something to learn!

Always remember (I like this) "Ego is a balloon and Rennlist is the Pin"..
Gary R. is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 04:05 PM
  #40  
BostonDMD
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
BostonDMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: MA
Posts: 6,921
Default

Originally Posted by Gary R. View Post
He does it on purpose, so it's ok. You must have missed that but no harm no foul.
Spins the car on purpose?

Is he a stuntman or a rally driver? or both?
BostonDMD is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 04:11 PM
  #41  
quickxotica
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
quickxotica's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Francisco & parts north
Posts: 807
Default

Originally Posted by utkinpol View Post
yes and no. if you do want to make a fastest clean run possible you do need to know how much precisely you can afford to overheat your tires at what corner at this particular day and how it will affect your traction at next corner so you keep pushing until it is too much (spin) then take it down so it will work. sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. like last Sunday i did not get it spin at all where i expected it to. nobody`s perfect.
Oh. My. God.

On an enormous skidpad with nobody else nearby this might be an ok learning strategy. On a road course, this approach will eventually put you or an innocent bystander into a coffin (or worse). Seriously. Time for a re-think.
quickxotica is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 04:13 PM
  #42  
fast_freddy
I Am The Sexual Pope
Rennlist Member
 
fast_freddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vermontingham, Trustafarianland
Posts: 24,203
Default

Originally Posted by BostonDMD View Post
Spins the car on purpose?

Is he a stuntman or a rally driver? or both?
The only place I'm interested in spinning my car is at the Smuggler's Notch parking lot at 6:45AM on a Saturday/Sunday with the e-brake when no one else is there. It's a good way to make a nice, quick, tight turn, wake up the kids and scare the **** out of my wife and have fun. It's a win win win win.
fast_freddy is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 04:13 PM
  #43  
bobt993
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
bobt993's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philly Burbs
Posts: 3,051
Default

Interesting thought about spinning. In 10 years of track driving/racing, I have spun twice and off track once. I must be leaving a lot on the table................................
bobt993 is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 04:15 PM
  #44  
Gary R.
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Gary R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Valencia, Spain
Posts: 14,920
Default

*****
Gary R. is offline  
Old 08-04-2010, 04:16 PM
  #45  
Gary R.
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
Gary R.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Valencia, Spain
Posts: 14,920
Default

Originally Posted by quickxotica View Post
Oh. My. God.

On an enormous skidpad with nobody else nearby this might be an ok learning strategy. On a road course, this approach will eventually put you or an innocent bystander into a coffin (or worse). Seriously. Time for a re-think.
I see a new video formulating in your head..................
Gary R. is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: greenhorn`s silly post-event questions :)


Contact Us About Us Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: