f1rocks

perfect

utkinpol

ok, you are serious (or sarcastic) here, so here is a more or less serious response then.

nope. i had a great instructor. she drives completely different car but as you yourself told me already - it did not matter for first event at all. i did not know the track, i never drove it, i never walked it. it took me whole first day to learn the line.

second day first 2 sessions i still could not drive the line consistently and it came at third event on second day only where i was able to say by feel in my back if I`m going right or wrong in each corner. and only after that we started to go fast - before that i simply let anybody to pass me and was working on line. when it got back i was ale to pass every single car in my group when i wanted it - just because it was working exactly as instructor said - you go fast line at slow speed, then start adding up and you will be fast and it worked.

i know where my limits are well enough as i do spin my car more or less every 2 weeks on purpose in different corners and when i almost went to spin in that corner 1 to 2a transition it did not feel natural to me at all as i do know pretty well after 2 seasons of auto-x when exactly and precisely why my car spins. but it usually does not involve going down from 105mph to 65mph and throwing it from left to right in this way as it not quite same as regular slalom so it is exactly what i get here - where previous experience does not matter and new stuff has to be learned. makes sense?

again, i apologize if my reactions bothered you, but it is just me, when I see that i cannot turn the conversation around i simply do cut it short. it is simpler this way.

Trak Ratt

To funny!! Got the link from someone else and have really enjoyed reading this train wreck. Have at it, it's a slow afternoon.

roundel

I am missing some of your logic here. Methinks not spinning your car more or less every two weeks might be a better indication of knowing your limits.

Gary R.

He does it on purpose, so it's ok. You must have missed that but no harm no foul.

utkinpol

yes and no. if you do want to make a fastest clean run possible you do need to know how much precisely you can afford to overheat your tires at what corner at this particular day and how it will affect your traction at next corner so you keep pushing until it is too much (spin) then take it down so it will work. sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. like last Sunday i did not get it spin at all where i expected it to. nobody`s perfect.

but i do have a feel it is time to stop this. it can continue, my input is not longer relevant here no matter what i say, thread is ruined already.

fast_freddy

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f1rocks

This thread was ruined by the #5 response.

First rule of thumb on this forum is leave the ego/attitude at the gate before asking for something here. This "jerkfest" as you called it, has some upstanding helpful drovers. A little ribbing is just for fun so lighten up Francis.....

Dangit Freddy beat me to it.

Gary R.

Lots of good info here, i'm already thinking about my planned "spin corners" at Limerock in a couple weeks! Don't see why you guys are so negative, we all have something to learn!

Always remember (I like this) "Ego is a balloon and Rennlist is the Pin"..

BostonDMD

Spins the car on purpose?

Is he a stuntman or a rally driver? or both?

quickxotica

Oh. My. God.

On an enormous skidpad with nobody else nearby this might be an ok learning strategy. On a road course, this approach will eventually put you or an innocent bystander into a coffin (or worse). Seriously. Time for a re-think.

fast_freddy

The only place I'm interested in spinning my car is at the Smuggler's Notch parking lot at 6:45AM on a Saturday/Sunday with the e-brake when no one else is there. It's a good way to make a nice, quick, tight turn, wake up the kids and scare the **** out of my wife and have fun. It's a win win win win.

bobt993

Interesting thought about spinning. In 10 years of track driving/racing, I have spun twice and off track once. I must be leaving a lot on the table................................

Gary R.

*****

Gary R.

I see a new video formulating in your head..................