PCA or other ruling on 'windows', open, lexan ok?
06-28-2010 | 05:22 PM
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It's not one link. There are tons of arguments (on NASA forums, BMW forums, Porsche forums, etc) as to why power/weight isn't any more fair (or easier to enforce) than any other kind of racing though. I see bitching on the NASA forums about "illegal" cars with too much power, and accusations of cheating, etc. And getting a dyno to the track doesn't always prove easy...take VIR for instance that has an "in-house" dyno of the wrong brand for NASA, and thus, will not allow a portable dyno of the correct brand to come to the track.
06-28-2010 | 05:35 PM
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For all you comedians out there, the reason lexan windshields were originally allowed in stock class was safety, not because the rules chair already had one, as the rules chair in place at that time did not race.
lexan windows aren't necessarily any more safe than glass ones, especially if the glass ones aren't up.
This racer is proposing that he be allowed to run windows up. It doesn't matter whether the windows are lexan or glass if they are going to be up, at least in terms of competitive balance, since inherently a car running with its windows up will be more aerodynamic and have an advantage.
with that said, the reason most sanctioning bodies require windows to be down is for extracation, if there is a wreck and the car is on fire. And, yes, PCA club racing allows windows in factory cup cars, because they were delivered that way. Frankly, most cornerworkers and EV crews aren't wild about dealing with a lexan factory installed window if the car wrecks and is on fire.
With regard to remote reservoir shocks, the current rules committee would not have allowed those, if the members had been presented with a proposal for that change and frankly, it was a mistake allowing them in stock class. With that said, to now "outlaw" them would result in a number of racers having to remove them or move up a class. The rules committee does not want to make any change to the rules that result in a significant expense to racers just to stay competitive.
lexan windows aren't necessarily any more safe than glass ones, especially if the glass ones aren't up.
This racer is proposing that he be allowed to run windows up. It doesn't matter whether the windows are lexan or glass if they are going to be up, at least in terms of competitive balance, since inherently a car running with its windows up will be more aerodynamic and have an advantage.
with that said, the reason most sanctioning bodies require windows to be down is for extracation, if there is a wreck and the car is on fire. And, yes, PCA club racing allows windows in factory cup cars, because they were delivered that way. Frankly, most cornerworkers and EV crews aren't wild about dealing with a lexan factory installed window if the car wrecks and is on fire.
With regard to remote reservoir shocks, the current rules committee would not have allowed those, if the members had been presented with a proposal for that change and frankly, it was a mistake allowing them in stock class. With that said, to now "outlaw" them would result in a number of racers having to remove them or move up a class. The rules committee does not want to make any change to the rules that result in a significant expense to racers just to stay competitive.
06-28-2010 | 08:40 PM
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With regard to remote reservoir shocks, the current rules committee would not have allowed those, if the members had been presented with a proposal for that change and frankly, it was a mistake allowing them in stock class. With that said, to now "outlaw" them would result in a number of racers having to remove them or move up a class. The rules committee does not want to make any change to the rules that result in a significant expense to racers just to stay competitive.
06-28-2010 | 09:13 PM
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It's not one link. There are tons of arguments (on NASA forums, BMW forums, Porsche forums, etc) as to why power/weight isn't any more fair (or easier to enforce) than any other kind of racing though. I see bitching on the NASA forums about "illegal" cars with too much power, and accusations of cheating, etc. And getting a dyno to the track doesn't always prove easy...take VIR for instance that has an "in-house" dyno of the wrong brand for NASA, and thus, will not allow a portable dyno of the correct brand to come to the track.
