WTF?!?!?!?!?!?! Indy Car fire...
06-06-2010, 08:39 PM
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Scary stuff... I typically only wear my driving suit in DEs at Road America due to the higher speeds. However I don't think I will ever get in my car at any track without my suit from now on. By the way, Road America safety workers, for the Club race or DE, put these TMS workers to shame.
06-06-2010, 08:58 PM
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Holy Crap! As mention, unacceptable. Not mentioned, it took the ambulance 2 minutes to get there. That too is BS. the driving suits are only good for 9 seconds (maybe more at the top pro levels?) but none are rated for 40 seconds. Scary stuff.
06-06-2010, 09:13 PM
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Watching it live, it just made my stomach knot up. It seemed to take FOREVER...
So glad she is relatively okay.
So glad she is relatively okay.
06-06-2010, 09:26 PM
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Does anyone know if these are TMS or IRL employees?
Again, I think back to the days of CART (fondly, before Tony George accidentally had 2 synapses fire and therefore thought he had a functioning brain) and couldn't imagine that scenario unfolding.
Apart from the response to the fire, which thankfully was not engulfing the driver, the driver extraction left a bit to be desired, especially if a spinal injury could have occurred as part of the impact/crash.
Again, I think back to the days of CART (fondly, before Tony George accidentally had 2 synapses fire and therefore thought he had a functioning brain) and couldn't imagine that scenario unfolding.
Apart from the response to the fire, which thankfully was not engulfing the driver, the driver extraction left a bit to be desired, especially if a spinal injury could have occurred as part of the impact/crash.
That's what I was thinking. The first guy out of the truck puls out the fire hose, and waits for somebody to turn it on???????? Then the second guy comes out, and can't figure out how to turn it on?????? THEN the 3rd guy comes out, and tried to find the extinguisher.... he finally gets it, but obviously has no idea how to use it. So the next step is to pull her out of the car. I swear, by the way they were pulling her, if she didn't come free, they were going to hook her up to the truck and yank her out.
Then, her torso is out, but her legs are hung up..... SO JUST PULL HARDER!!!! Whats the worst that could happen?? Retards.
I feel horrible for her. I know only her hand got burned, but the fire wasn't THAT bad. I don't think she should have been injured at all....if the corner workers knew WTF they were doing.
06-06-2010, 10:39 PM
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The freaking corner workers didn't know how to remove a driver from an Indy car at... a freaking INDY CAR RACE!
Completely inexcusable. I am still shocked and pissed off that this could happen at the top levels of professional racing.
Completely inexcusable. I am still shocked and pissed off that this could happen at the top levels of professional racing.
06-06-2010, 11:24 PM
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Larry/ Dave, et al;
The MO corner workers are Lake Erie Communications, the SCCA crew. They are indeed some of the best.
Dave - "Race" control at that event last year could have been MO staff or PCA Stewards - don't know who was manning the tower for that DE run group. I have to agree, the Corvette flambe' ws a scary sight.
The MO corner workers are Lake Erie Communications, the SCCA crew. They are indeed some of the best.
Dave - "Race" control at that event last year could have been MO staff or PCA Stewards - don't know who was manning the tower for that DE run group. I have to agree, the Corvette flambe' ws a scary sight.
06-07-2010, 12:09 AM
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Larry/ Dave, et al;
The MO corner workers are Lake Erie Communications, the SCCA crew. They are indeed some of the best.
Dave - "Race" control at that event last year could have been MO staff or PCA Stewards - don't know who was manning the tower for that DE run group. I have to agree, the Corvette flambe' ws a scary sight.
The MO corner workers are Lake Erie Communications, the SCCA crew. They are indeed some of the best.
Dave - "Race" control at that event last year could have been MO staff or PCA Stewards - don't know who was manning the tower for that DE run group. I have to agree, the Corvette flambe' ws a scary sight.
<<literallyRumor has it GM covered the engine under warranty....
06-07-2010, 12:26 AM
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If I were driving in IRL I would be livid and demand two things be done before we (drivers) climb back in the car:
1) Get a new head (cockpit) restraining system extraction system/process
2) Tell the tools that are supposed to help the drivers to first and foremost, PUT THE ******* FIRE OUT!!
Especially after hitting the wall like that, can anyone say spinal cord/neck injury.
That's one of the worst displays of "safety" workers I've ever seen.
1) Get a new head (cockpit) restraining system extraction system/process
2) Tell the tools that are supposed to help the drivers to first and foremost, PUT THE ******* FIRE OUT!!
Especially after hitting the wall like that, can anyone say spinal cord/neck injury.
That's one of the worst displays of "safety" workers I've ever seen.
06-07-2010, 01:05 PM
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That's what I was thinking. The first guy out of the truck puls out the fire hose, and waits for somebody to turn it on???????? Then the second guy comes out, and can't figure out how to turn it on?????? THEN the 3rd guy comes out, and tried to find the extinguisher.... he finally gets it, but obviously has no idea how to use it. So the next step is to pull her out of the car. I swear, by the way they were pulling her, if she didn't come free, they were going to hook her up to the truck and yank her out.
Then, her torso is out, but her legs are hung up..... SO JUST PULL HARDER!!!! Whats the worst that could happen?? Retards.
I feel horrible for her. I know only her hand got burned, but the fire wasn't THAT bad. I don't think she should have been injured at all....if the corner workers knew WTF they were doing.
Then, her torso is out, but her legs are hung up..... SO JUST PULL HARDER!!!! Whats the worst that could happen?? Retards.
I feel horrible for her. I know only her hand got burned, but the fire wasn't THAT bad. I don't think she should have been injured at all....if the corner workers knew WTF they were doing.
06-07-2010, 02:05 PM
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I was watching the race Sat nite as well. The wife sleeping on the couch with her waking up to the sound of me yelling at the TV. This is completely un-excusable! I'm sure the guys trying to get her out were from the track not the Izod IRL. Why is there not a 'kwik release' for the body molding that captures the shoulders of the driver? Maybe there is but they just panicked.
In any case I an very glad I did not have to witness a human BBQ!
In any case I an very glad I did not have to witness a human BBQ!
06-07-2010, 02:37 PM
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Their driving suits aren't any "better" than our driving suits.
06-07-2010, 03:36 PM
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nope, although some pro groups have a slightly higher standard than club with 3 layers and under a requirement or 3.2/10 SFI suits. SCCA Pro does for sure. A few extra seconds but nothing to get you up to 40.
06-07-2010, 04:18 PM
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Scary stuff... I typically only wear my driving suit in DEs at Road America due to the higher speeds. However I don't think I will ever get in my car at any track without my suit from now on. By the way, Road America safety workers, for the Club race or DE, put these TMS workers to shame.
06-07-2010, 04:43 PM
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