How would you fix the racing in F1?
03-15-2010, 12:32 PM
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Extremely hard tire compounds would the the easiest fix I think.
Inverting the grid? Sucks. Then what's the point of qualifying. It's a joke in WorldChallenge why do we think it's a good idea for F1.
Dropping aero? That would be cost prohibitive and the top teams would still figure out a way to get a lot of it back.
Inverting the grid? Sucks. Then what's the point of qualifying. It's a joke in WorldChallenge why do we think it's a good idea for F1.
Dropping aero? That would be cost prohibitive and the top teams would still figure out a way to get a lot of it back.
03-15-2010, 12:35 PM
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Are all of you guys too young to remember the 3.0 Cosworth era? Or back to Race #1 of the current FIA-- Fangio, Farina, etc.? They didn't refuel.
It's all about the forcing of austerity. Why limit engines? Tires? So Virgin and Campos (and what USF1 would have been) won't be a laughing stock? Newsflash--BRM, March, and Ensign weren't exactly at the pointy end of the grid when Ferrari, McLaren, and Lotus (the real one) were kicking ***.
It's all about the forcing of austerity. Why limit engines? Tires? So Virgin and Campos (and what USF1 would have been) won't be a laughing stock? Newsflash--BRM, March, and Ensign weren't exactly at the pointy end of the grid when Ferrari, McLaren, and Lotus (the real one) were kicking ***.
Get as far away from "spec rules" as possible but take away the aero and add mechanical grip.
That, plus manual transmission (no flappy pedals) and steel brakes will make a big difference so even though you increase ingenuity and cost, you'll save some with cheaper transmissions & brakes.
03-15-2010, 12:39 PM
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Go back to 1967 (though without the deaths).
Now, that was racing (and I was 15).
I tried to watch the race this weekend, but though I love driving on the track, I just can't get into watching racing on TV.
Now, that was racing (and I was 15).
I tried to watch the race this weekend, but though I love driving on the track, I just can't get into watching racing on TV.
03-15-2010, 12:51 PM
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Extremely hard tire compounds would the the easiest fix I think.
Inverting the grid? Sucks. Then what's the point of qualifying. It's a joke in WorldChallenge why do we think it's a good idea for F1.
Dropping aero? That would be cost prohibitive and the top teams would still figure out a way to get a lot of it back.
Inverting the grid? Sucks. Then what's the point of qualifying. It's a joke in WorldChallenge why do we think it's a good idea for F1.
Dropping aero? That would be cost prohibitive and the top teams would still figure out a way to get a lot of it back.
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03-15-2010, 12:56 PM
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How about giving points for the positions during the race as well. Maybe 5,4,3,2,1 points extra for position 1,2,3,4,5 during laps every 5 laps? No points if positions haven't changed.
That would spice things up and team orders would fly all over radio.
Completely open radio traffic for all teams.
That would spice things up and team orders would fly all over radio.
Completely open radio traffic for all teams.
03-15-2010, 12:59 PM
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Manual transmission (6 speed H pattern?) with engine electronic and cluch cutoff for wrong gear over-rev to preserve the motor, since FIA is so intent on preserving things.
Is there enough room in the footbox for the drivers to heel and toe?
If they nuked the diffusers, how much sliding with it introduce to the cars.
Is there enough room in the footbox for the drivers to heel and toe?
If they nuked the diffusers, how much sliding with it introduce to the cars.
03-15-2010, 01:05 PM
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At this level the gearbox style won't be a gamechanger. The shifter technology isn't that expensive either as we see it in club racing now.
03-15-2010, 02:00 PM
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Stop trying to make all the cars the same. How can you pass when everyone has the same HP? Whoever is able to innovate should be able to do it. That's what makes for race car evolution. I don't believe the teams are saving money as was pointed out by one of the commentators. When the rules restrict one aspect, the teams spend more on other aspects to compensate.
03-15-2010, 02:39 PM
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I don't think no refueling is the issue. The difference compared to the last no refueling era is the pit lane speed limit making the pit stops too long for tire changes, so everyone go on the "conserve" mode.
Not to say they should sacrifice safety, but shorter pit roads (or design the pit road more like a shortcut of the track) should help.
Not to say they should sacrifice safety, but shorter pit roads (or design the pit road more like a shortcut of the track) should help.
Alonso was never going to pass Vettel because he had to conserve tires and getting into the dirty hot air makes it worse. If he could blast through a pit stop and not end up back in the middle of the pack it may have been worth while.
03-15-2010, 02:53 PM
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned putting a cap in the back of Bernie's head.
A tad harsh perhaps, but better racing would undoubtedly follow.
A tad harsh perhaps, but better racing would undoubtedly follow.
03-15-2010, 03:19 PM
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"Wheel of Inversion" and coin flip for race direction is pure win. Might make for a bit of a messy race.
All kidding aside. I don't know how to put the racing back. All the aero kills passing, might as well as skip the passing thing do the Time trials thing and see who can build the flat out fastest car and put the fastest, biggest set of clackers driver in it.
All kidding aside. I don't know how to put the racing back. All the aero kills passing, might as well as skip the passing thing do the Time trials thing and see who can build the flat out fastest car and put the fastest, biggest set of clackers driver in it.
03-15-2010, 04:39 PM
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To me the question is more complex, because yes, we all want to see more competition on track (as opposed to the wind tunnel) but I also want to the engineering creativity that is the hallmark of F1.
So is there a way to move forward, not back, and yield better racing?
How does <<gulp>> NASCAR compare?
So is there a way to move forward, not back, and yield better racing?
How does <<gulp>> NASCAR compare?
03-15-2010, 04:59 PM
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Now if they would only amend the HP and time of use limit on KERS . . .
If this quailfy as high up as you can and then nurse the car around keeps up, it's going to get as exciting as watching those Shell Eco Challenge trikes tool around on track with lots of burn and coast to see who can eek out the best mileage. (/tire use)
Build the damn fastest machine you can build.
And then put emergency donut spares on the race car.
But it's still a super fast expensive lightweight machine.