View Poll Results: What do you think of the Limerock Race Schedule?
I would rather 1 Sprint and a 60 minute Enduro
20
58.82%
I would rather the 2 Sprint races
10
29.41%
I'm not going so I just don't care
4
11.76%
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CVR Limerock Club Race - No Enduro?
02-23-2010, 11:58 AM
#77
Rennlist Member
I have a statistical bias for Sprint Races (1 DNF in 19, while in Enduros 5 DNFs in 8), and IMO its usually more hardcore fast racing (in Enduros it only happens if you have someone running almost on the same 10th). Enduros are just different and equipment durability and some luck matters a lot too.
LimeRock, being so short and brutal on Left tires, is the one track were I really dont mind not having an Enduro.
02-23-2010, 01:32 PM
#78
(just joking guys!)
and IMO its usually more hardcore fast racing (in Enduros it only happens if you have someone running almost on the same 10th). Enduros are just different and equipment durability and some luck matters a lot too.
In an enduro, you almost certainly will have to deal with traffic (you are either lapping someone or being lapped). How you deal with that will play a factor in how well you finish. To some, it may seem like luck...
Sure, there is some luck involved if you pit right when a yellow flag comes out. That doesn't really happen often though. And even when it does, there is some skill involved.
For example, at last year's Mosport enduro, I came around 5A/5B to see a car nearly in the wall and I got very sideways as the track was slick. I decided to pit because I was sure that they would have to throw some kitty litter on that turn and caught the yellow flag just as I entered the pits. Was I lucky? Yes. However, about half the race field had the opportunity to make the same pit stop, and only one other car decided to do it.
02-23-2010, 11:34 PM
#79
Rennlist Member
Tell Spencer to stop building 40 minute engines (just joking guys!)
Luck matters some, but by and large, I feel it takes better racing skills to win an enduro. In a sprint, all you have to do is go fast for about 20-25 minutes as it is rare to have to deal with lapped traffic.
In an enduro, you almost certainly will have to deal with traffic (you are either lapping someone or being lapped). How you deal with that will play a factor in how well you finish. To some, it may seem like luck...
Sure, there is some luck involved if you pit right when a yellow flag comes out. That doesn't really happen often though. And even when it does, there is some skill involved.
For example, at last year's Mosport enduro, I came around 5A/5B to see a car nearly in the wall and I got very sideways as the track was slick. I decided to pit because I was sure that they would have to throw some kitty litter on that turn and caught the yellow flag just as I entered the pits. Was I lucky? Yes. However, about half the race field had the opportunity to make the same pit stop, and only one other car decided to do it.
(just joking guys!)Luck matters some, but by and large, I feel it takes better racing skills to win an enduro. In a sprint, all you have to do is go fast for about 20-25 minutes as it is rare to have to deal with lapped traffic.
In an enduro, you almost certainly will have to deal with traffic (you are either lapping someone or being lapped). How you deal with that will play a factor in how well you finish. To some, it may seem like luck...
Sure, there is some luck involved if you pit right when a yellow flag comes out. That doesn't really happen often though. And even when it does, there is some skill involved.
For example, at last year's Mosport enduro, I came around 5A/5B to see a car nearly in the wall and I got very sideways as the track was slick. I decided to pit because I was sure that they would have to throw some kitty litter on that turn and caught the yellow flag just as I entered the pits. Was I lucky? Yes. However, about half the race field had the opportunity to make the same pit stop, and only one other car decided to do it.
It is always that annoying little part that has binary failure rates/effect (PS Cooler, hoose, oil seal, shifter cable, etc.)
I Agree that fast in Racing means the one who finish ahead (Wins) and not necessarily the faster at doing lonely laps, and real racing requires passing other in class as well as slower traffic. It is rare the case that 2 racesrs are so equal that the heat of the battle maintains through the whole Enduro race (like your Enduro Race agains Bico last year at LRP. That was really cool to watch). Usually the slighter faster guy opens a gap and only external factors or a major screwup will make the race tight again in an Enduro. In a Sprint race, every lap, every turn and every mistake counts: You can be 4/10laps faster than someone else but if in one lap you think for too long about passing a slower car (In H Stock you always catch lapped traffic after 15mins), or put 2 wheels off and loose 2secs a lap, the gap you built over 5 laps is gone.
