DTM Roll Cage????
12-05-2009, 03:36 PM
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dtm is awesome, i am glad its on speed. I wish they came to the US, even the BTCC was great.
How come BWM does not race in DTM? has it always been the Audi and Benz?
How come BWM does not race in DTM? has it always been the Audi and Benz?
12-05-2009, 09:50 PM
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BMW doesn't typically race in series where they can't race a car built from a production chassis (save for an occasional prototype car). DTM is nothing more than a "pretend" touring car series and is really just a prototype car with a sedan looking body. WTCC, BTCC, etc are where BMW fields touring cars.
Opel ran in the past in the new DTM.
It's funny that certain folks will make fun of Grand-Am for having tube frame "silhouette" cars while being big DTM fans.
"The cars are supposed to be fast and spectacular, while still rather cheap to build and run. All DTM race cars have RWD and 4.0 L V8 engines which are air-restricted to 470 hp, no matter if similar layouts or engines are available in the road cars. Instead of the road car bodies, unrelated purpose-built chassis are used, which are closer to prototype racing. Many drivers have in fact described the handling of the cars as closer to single seater racing cars than road cars. Only the roof sections of the road cars are put on top of the roll cages, and lights and other distinctive design features are used in order to provide a resemblance to the road cars. Also, in order to save money and provide close racing, many common parts from third party specialist are used, like transmission (from Hewland and Xtrac), brakes, and Dunlop Tyres. The all-important aerodynamic configurations are tested in wind tunnels before the season, brought to an equal level, and kept that way throughout the season."
Opel ran in the past in the new DTM.
It's funny that certain folks will make fun of Grand-Am for having tube frame "silhouette" cars while being big DTM fans.
"The cars are supposed to be fast and spectacular, while still rather cheap to build and run. All DTM race cars have RWD and 4.0 L V8 engines which are air-restricted to 470 hp, no matter if similar layouts or engines are available in the road cars. Instead of the road car bodies, unrelated purpose-built chassis are used, which are closer to prototype racing. Many drivers have in fact described the handling of the cars as closer to single seater racing cars than road cars. Only the roof sections of the road cars are put on top of the roll cages, and lights and other distinctive design features are used in order to provide a resemblance to the road cars. Also, in order to save money and provide close racing, many common parts from third party specialist are used, like transmission (from Hewland and Xtrac), brakes, and Dunlop Tyres. The all-important aerodynamic configurations are tested in wind tunnels before the season, brought to an equal level, and kept that way throughout the season."
12-05-2009, 09:59 PM
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DTM is sweet to watch. At least it's total commitment to making a GT car into a prototype, there is no assuming or intermingling. The cars also look better than anything in GA.
Plus I think all racing in Europe looks more fun, maybe because people actually appreciate it over there and the crowds show up to watch, whereas here, you can't find a packed grandstand at anything that makes rights and lefts.
Plus I think all racing in Europe looks more fun, maybe because people actually appreciate it over there and the crowds show up to watch, whereas here, you can't find a packed grandstand at anything that makes rights and lefts.
12-05-2009, 10:13 PM
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BMW doesn't typically race in series where they can't race a car built from a production chassis (save for an occasional prototype car). DTM is nothing more than a "pretend" touring car series and is really just a prototype car with a sedan looking body. WTCC, BTCC, etc are where BMW fields touring cars.
Opel ran in the past in the new DTM.
It's funny that certain folks will make fun of Grand-Am for having tube frame "silhouette" cars while being big DTM fans.
"The cars are supposed to be fast and spectacular, while still rather cheap to build and run. All DTM race cars have RWD and 4.0 L V8 engines which are air-restricted to 470 hp, no matter if similar layouts or engines are available in the road cars. Instead of the road car bodies, unrelated purpose-built chassis are used, which are closer to prototype racing. Many drivers have in fact described the handling of the cars as closer to single seater racing cars than road cars. Only the roof sections of the road cars are put on top of the roll cages, and lights and other distinctive design features are used in order to provide a resemblance to the road cars. Also, in order to save money and provide close racing, many common parts from third party specialist are used, like transmission (from Hewland and Xtrac), brakes, and Dunlop Tyres. The all-important aerodynamic configurations are tested in wind tunnels before the season, brought to an equal level, and kept that way throughout the season."
Opel ran in the past in the new DTM.
It's funny that certain folks will make fun of Grand-Am for having tube frame "silhouette" cars while being big DTM fans.
"The cars are supposed to be fast and spectacular, while still rather cheap to build and run. All DTM race cars have RWD and 4.0 L V8 engines which are air-restricted to 470 hp, no matter if similar layouts or engines are available in the road cars. Instead of the road car bodies, unrelated purpose-built chassis are used, which are closer to prototype racing. Many drivers have in fact described the handling of the cars as closer to single seater racing cars than road cars. Only the roof sections of the road cars are put on top of the roll cages, and lights and other distinctive design features are used in order to provide a resemblance to the road cars. Also, in order to save money and provide close racing, many common parts from third party specialist are used, like transmission (from Hewland and Xtrac), brakes, and Dunlop Tyres. The all-important aerodynamic configurations are tested in wind tunnels before the season, brought to an equal level, and kept that way throughout the season."
Interesting info about DTM... It's like NASCAR for people with a full head of teeth.
12-05-2009, 10:15 PM
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