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11-07-2009, 10:30 AM
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11-07-2009, 01:50 PM
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Counterpoint:
It seems like Rennlisters from NJ don't seem to have an issue with what's going on at NJMP and the police.
Query: If the police are watching us on the racetrack, then who is watching the police?
Answer: in NJ, the mob, of course!!
I've been to NJMP a few times, and I've done DE's at both Thunderbolt and Lightning. Both are fun and challenging tracks, and the facilities are terrific. I never had an inspection done on my safety equipment while running a DE there by police or even track personnel. I suspect the local authorities pay a bit more attention at races. Besides, at a DE, I can simply not use my 5 point harnesses, and use my 20 year old three-point system and be 'legal,' so for me personally, the issue it moot.
The authorities in NJ are most likely well aware of some recent mishaps at tracks - like the Carrera GT incident at a Ferrari Club DE a couple of years ago, and the Evo event at Pocono International Raceway as well. I suspect that both the track and the local authorities want to minimize the risk of such things happening at a track in NJ.
New Jersey is the 'most crowded' state. As such, things like insurance claims and lawsuits are more prevalent here than most states. With so many folks living so close to each other, you need to make compromises, including having stricter regulations. Perhaps that's why the police are more apt to be at the track checking our equipment.
If having to be more up-to-date with my safety equipment is what it takes to run at NJMP, so be it. That tracks an hour and a half away from my home, it has good facilities, and is far more challenging than the next closest track - Pocono Raceway.
-Z-man.
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It seems like Rennlisters from NJ don't seem to have an issue with what's going on at NJMP and the police.
Query: If the police are watching us on the racetrack, then who is watching the police?
Answer: in NJ, the mob, of course!!
I've been to NJMP a few times, and I've done DE's at both Thunderbolt and Lightning. Both are fun and challenging tracks, and the facilities are terrific. I never had an inspection done on my safety equipment while running a DE there by police or even track personnel. I suspect the local authorities pay a bit more attention at races. Besides, at a DE, I can simply not use my 5 point harnesses, and use my 20 year old three-point system and be 'legal,' so for me personally, the issue it moot.
The authorities in NJ are most likely well aware of some recent mishaps at tracks - like the Carrera GT incident at a Ferrari Club DE a couple of years ago, and the Evo event at Pocono International Raceway as well. I suspect that both the track and the local authorities want to minimize the risk of such things happening at a track in NJ.
New Jersey is the 'most crowded' state. As such, things like insurance claims and lawsuits are more prevalent here than most states. With so many folks living so close to each other, you need to make compromises, including having stricter regulations. Perhaps that's why the police are more apt to be at the track checking our equipment.
If having to be more up-to-date with my safety equipment is what it takes to run at NJMP, so be it. That tracks an hour and a half away from my home, it has good facilities, and is far more challenging than the next closest track - Pocono Raceway.
-Z-man.
Disclaimer: The mofia is a ficticious group of people. But they are the nicest group of imaginary people you'll ever meet!
11-07-2009, 02:44 PM
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On the other hand, those people had lifelong experience with enslavement and tyranny, and they knew the ins and outs of it.
We, of course, do not.
Luckily we have Washington DC working hard to correct that situation.
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11-07-2009, 05:44 PM
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Counterpoint:
It seems like Rennlisters from NJ don't seem to have an issue with what's going on at NJMP and the police.
Query: If the police are watching us on the racetrack, then who is watching the police?
Answer: in NJ, the mob, of course!!
I've been to NJMP a few times, and I've done DE's at both Thunderbolt and Lightning. Both are fun and challenging tracks, and the facilities are terrific. I never had an inspection done on my safety equipment while running a DE there by police or even track personnel. I suspect the local authorities pay a bit more attention at races. Besides, at a DE, I can simply not use my 5 point harnesses, and use my 20 year old three-point system and be 'legal,' so for me personally, the issue it moot.
The authorities in NJ are most likely well aware of some recent mishaps at tracks - like the Carrera GT incident at a Ferrari Club DE a couple of years ago, and the Evo event at Pocono International Raceway as well. I suspect that both the track and the local authorities want to minimize the risk of such things happening at a track in NJ.
New Jersey is the 'most crowded' state. As such, things like insurance claims and lawsuits are more prevalent here than most states. With so many folks living so close to each other, you need to make compromises, including having stricter regulations. Perhaps that's why the police are more apt to be at the track checking our equipment.
If having to be more up-to-date with my safety equipment is what it takes to run at NJMP, so be it. That tracks an hour and a half away from my home, it has good facilities, and is far more challenging than the next closest track - Pocono Raceway.
-Z-man.
Disclaimer: The mofia is a ficticious group of people. But they are the nicest group of imaginary people you'll ever meet!
It seems like Rennlisters from NJ don't seem to have an issue with what's going on at NJMP and the police.
Query: If the police are watching us on the racetrack, then who is watching the police?
Answer: in NJ, the mob, of course!!
I've been to NJMP a few times, and I've done DE's at both Thunderbolt and Lightning. Both are fun and challenging tracks, and the facilities are terrific. I never had an inspection done on my safety equipment while running a DE there by police or even track personnel. I suspect the local authorities pay a bit more attention at races. Besides, at a DE, I can simply not use my 5 point harnesses, and use my 20 year old three-point system and be 'legal,' so for me personally, the issue it moot.
The authorities in NJ are most likely well aware of some recent mishaps at tracks - like the Carrera GT incident at a Ferrari Club DE a couple of years ago, and the Evo event at Pocono International Raceway as well. I suspect that both the track and the local authorities want to minimize the risk of such things happening at a track in NJ.
New Jersey is the 'most crowded' state. As such, things like insurance claims and lawsuits are more prevalent here than most states. With so many folks living so close to each other, you need to make compromises, including having stricter regulations. Perhaps that's why the police are more apt to be at the track checking our equipment.
If having to be more up-to-date with my safety equipment is what it takes to run at NJMP, so be it. That tracks an hour and a half away from my home, it has good facilities, and is far more challenging than the next closest track - Pocono Raceway.
-Z-man.
Disclaimer: The mofia is a ficticious group of people. But they are the nicest group of imaginary people you'll ever meet!
11-07-2009, 06:45 PM
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11-07-2009, 07:02 PM
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11-07-2009, 08:32 PM
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Gosh, I don't know what....
BTW, you won't get the rise that you were looking for out of most of the NJ track crowd as they are all at a 3 day event at VIR at this time.
And for those wondering if it is safe to come out from under their beds, this just posted on another site by a good friend who frequents NJMP...
"I was at NJMP today for a Shattenbaum DE, no cops in sight. No one I spoke with could recall ever seeing a cop look into a car. They said the officers are always the old, larger sized people. Sounds like senority-based easy duty as opposed to zealots bringing DE people to justice".
BTW, you won't get the rise that you were looking for out of most of the NJ track crowd as they are all at a 3 day event at VIR at this time.
And for those wondering if it is safe to come out from under their beds, this just posted on another site by a good friend who frequents NJMP...
"I was at NJMP today for a Shattenbaum DE, no cops in sight. No one I spoke with could recall ever seeing a cop look into a car. They said the officers are always the old, larger sized people. Sounds like senority-based easy duty as opposed to zealots bringing DE people to justice".
11-07-2009, 09:18 PM
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Not looking for any rise, Bob. Just stating the facts.
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11-08-2009, 09:28 AM
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The more I hear about NJ, the more I like Texas...
Too bad my real estate and career are both stuck in Detroit...
Too bad my real estate and career are both stuck in Detroit...
11-08-2009, 10:16 AM
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11-08-2009, 10:18 AM
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11-08-2009, 10:23 AM
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I never heard, or read, where anyone said "But, according to Pete Tremper and others here, you all should be THANKFUL for this level of government intrusion into your private life" as you posted. I did read where several posted, as I did, that they were thankful for having an excellent facility and two very good tracks within 1 - 2 hours of home, even though there is a potential for government intrusion (never seen or personally experienced in two seasons of events) which SUCKS.
Maybe you don't see the difference.
Maybe you don't see the difference.
11-08-2009, 10:37 AM
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Bob, I am not going to get into an argument with you, a friend. However, the majority of us saw the incredible dripping condescension (sp.?) in Pete's comments.
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