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Old 11-11-2009, 03:44 PM
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Sean I just weighed my wheels:
CCW 18's with 275/35/18 43.5 lbs
Forgeline 17's with 275/40/17 43.5 lbs

Reportedly Buckley's wheels weigh 13 lbs
Hoosier 275/35/15 weighs 21 lbs
total weight 34 lbs
Old 11-11-2009, 03:48 PM
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thanks doug
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After all this evidence, I am shocked "Sean's Rule" was not passed.......
Old 11-11-2009, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by forklift
Looks like I will be pulling out my new chip and running G (if I finally get my cage) since that is the only prepared mod I have. Will put it back in if I race nasa GTS3.
Noooooo!!!!!

Originally Posted by good hands
Look forward to watching you and Mark go at it in G. And you, Wonger, and Jeff Curtis going at it in GTS3.
hey now, aren't we forgetting another G class racer?
Old 11-11-2009, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LPM911
Noooooo!!!!!



hey now, aren't we forgetting another G class racer?
Wouldn't have forgotten you if you had some graphics
Old 11-11-2009, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BostonDMD
After all this evidence, I am shocked "Sean's Rule" was not passed.......
Was never about weight.
Old 11-11-2009, 10:12 PM
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Lower final drive ratio by approximately 6%.
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Originally Posted by Sean F
Lower final drive ratio by approximately 6%.
Maybe if it was 10% it would have been enough.....
Old 11-11-2009, 11:48 PM
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If I were running in the class You guys are discussing I would try 15 inch rears and 17 or 18 inch fronts...not joking...
Also think its humorous someone wanted the 15 disallowed, isn't that what came on the car"stock"?
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Originally Posted by Glen
Also think its humorous someone wanted the 15 disallowed, isn't that what came on the car"stock"?
TELL 'EM!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Glen
If I were running in the class You guys are discussing I would try 15 inch rears and 17 or 18 inch fronts...not joking...
Also think its humorous someone wanted the 15 disallowed, isn't that what came on the car"stock"?
No one proposed to disallow 15s for the 2010 rule book. The proposal was about rolling diameter (which includes the tire dimension). Funny how such important details get lost....
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Tire cost would be a big factor going from 18s to 15s. I calculated less than 3.5 sets to reach breakout on the cost of the 15" wheels.

17s to 15s is a different story with just over a $100.00/set savings. That's a lot of tires to reach break even.

I'm guessing these would be noticable on slower tracks with lots of turns like Barber. Maybe LRP is the same. Not some much for RA or VIR. Correct?
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since the rules change thread has turned into a discussion of the merits of 15" wheels....anybody know who could make 11 x 15 and 12 x 15 wheels?
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by paradisenb
Tire cost would be a big factor going from 18s to 15s. I calculated less than 3.5 sets to reach breakout on the cost of the 15" wheels.

17s to 15s is a different story with just over a $100.00/set savings. That's a lot of tires to reach break even.

I'm guessing these would be noticable on slower tracks with lots of turns like Barber. Maybe LRP is the same. Not some much for RA or VIR. Correct?
That much of a delta on cost from 18 to 15 would be appealing to me for sure.

The 15s seem to help a lot coming out of slow turns (especially if the slow turn doesn't lead to an obscenely long straight). At the Glen this year, I was impressed to see how much a certain car was pulling away from me at the start, going up the toe of the boot, and between 8 and 9. That guy was running 17s at the Glen last year and he didn't pull away as much if at all. I will say that the 15s made him use gears a lot more than I did, which takes away from the benefit of the smaller rolling diameter, especially when down-shifting.
Old 11-12-2009, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FredC
Was never about weight.
I was curious because I was thinking the 15's would weigh more and offset the "final" gear ratio change v. the rolling resistance and unsprung weight. I had no idea the weights would be so close.


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