Track/DE Brake Pads with Non-Corrosive Dust
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Porterfield r4 (the full track ones) are fine for DE, though unnecessary for green group. They're very cheap and rotor friendly, though they don't have the initial bite or excellent modulation of the pf's, by my experience in my 993. They're awful on the street, of course, with dust and noise. Lately, Ive been having trouble with pad transference, though. I don't know if they changed the formula or my driving style somehow change.
If you want first time DE pads that are ok for both street and novice run group, you can try the R4S pads.
If you want first time DE pads that are ok for both street and novice run group, you can try the R4S pads.
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When you *do* need pads, I've never seen Pagids corrode anything. I've used them for 12 years and have sold 1000s of sets.
What do you have on there now and what car do you have?
What do you have on there now and what car do you have?
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'90 911 C2 with regular street pads of unknown brand (probably Pagid or Textar).
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I have been using the Porterfield R4 pads for awhile now. I like them....but as said above...they are dusty as hell and very noisy...definitely not for the street. Its hard to tell, overall, if there is a value benefit over some other race pads when you look at price, longevity and rotor wear.
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How have you found the Porterfield's in this respect?
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The track is Tremblant 2 hours north of Montreal.
The car is a '90 911 C2 and guess what, it looks like the stock rear caliper/pad setup are quite peculiar. So far, I've only found CarboTech and Porterfield make pads for my rear. So if I do need pads, it'll be a choice between the CarboTech XP8 and Porterfield R-4. Any comments on what you'd choose between these two (Porterfields seem significantly cheaper)? And back to my original post regarding non-corrosive nature of the dust, how are the Porterfields?
The car is a '90 911 C2 and guess what, it looks like the stock rear caliper/pad setup are quite peculiar. So far, I've only found CarboTech and Porterfield make pads for my rear. So if I do need pads, it'll be a choice between the CarboTech XP8 and Porterfield R-4. Any comments on what you'd choose between these two (Porterfields seem significantly cheaper)? And back to my original post regarding non-corrosive nature of the dust, how are the Porterfields?
If you end up tracking the car a great deal, you might want to consider replacing the rear calipers for the larger 4 piston ones -- this change increases the stopping area and give you greater choices for pads too.
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This your first DE. Do NOT do anything to your car!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go buy a torque wrench you will need it ot check your lug bolts.
Unless you are in love with the color blue, the brake fluid in your car is more than adequate for what you will be doing. The primary reason for changing over your brake fluid is that you are boiling it under extreme conditions. If you are boiling your brake fluid then you really need to be looking at your technique. You also do not need to change your pads. My first 12 DEs I did bone stock. Your primary concern for your first DE is to learn situational awareness, and how to drive a line, it is not about speed although that is building.
Go enjoy yourself for the first year or so with a bone stock car and then you can set fire to your check book feeding your addiction.
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Unless you are in love with the color blue, the brake fluid in your car is more than adequate for what you will be doing. The primary reason for changing over your brake fluid is that you are boiling it under extreme conditions. If you are boiling your brake fluid then you really need to be looking at your technique. You also do not need to change your pads. My first 12 DEs I did bone stock. Your primary concern for your first DE is to learn situational awareness, and how to drive a line, it is not about speed although that is building.
Go enjoy yourself for the first year or so with a bone stock car and then you can set fire to your check book feeding your addiction.
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