Brake Fluid Stats
05-25-2009, 09:09 PM
#31
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Sure SRF is the best for wet boiling temp but it isn't the best for dry and in a DE/Race car there is NO reason you should have fluid that is old enough to be concerned about the wet boiling temp. You should be bleeding your brakes every weekend and doing a full flush at least once a year. If you do that maintnence you'll never have to worry about the wet boiling point (the major selling point of SRF)
The only application I personally think that SRF would be worthwhile is the tow vehicle which gets much less brake fluid attention. In a racecar there is no gain compared to other brake fluids that are much cheaper.
The only application I personally think that SRF would be worthwhile is the tow vehicle which gets much less brake fluid attention. In a racecar there is no gain compared to other brake fluids that are much cheaper.
SRF has the highest spurious numbers by far and in that regard it rocks.
05-25-2009, 09:11 PM
#32
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I don't even use ATE Blue/Typ 200 in my son's karts....I use Motul RBF600 for that....SRF for the Cup car.
05-26-2009, 12:30 PM
#34
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Would you guys recommend the Pentosin Racing fluid for a heavier more HP car like a 996 GT3?
I d run the Pentosin Racing Fluid and have had no probems at all with it in many cars including an EVO 8 which has insufficient brakes. I like it better than ATE because it has a lower viscosity and gives a harder pedal (and it has better specs 
sorry).
At $16 per liter, Pentosin Racing is at a price point which encourages frequent brake flush. And it gives me a pedal with about 1" free play, then hard/firm over Pagid orange. Nice combo on a stock braked Carrera.
sorry).At $16 per liter, Pentosin Racing is at a price point which encourages frequent brake flush. And it gives me a pedal with about 1" free play, then hard/firm over Pagid orange. Nice combo on a stock braked Carrera.
05-26-2009, 02:40 PM
#36
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SRF has proven to be useful on cars with smaller brakes that challenge the hell out of the fluid.
Cars on this list are:
996TT
911SC and Carrera
Early 911s which must retain original brakes for Vintage racing
930 with OEM brakes and much higher HP
and perhaps a few more, not many. Motul 600 is great for nearly everything else Porsche.
Cars on this list are:
996TT
911SC and Carrera
Early 911s which must retain original brakes for Vintage racing
930 with OEM brakes and much higher HP
and perhaps a few more, not many. Motul 600 is great for nearly everything else Porsche.
05-26-2009, 02:49 PM
#37
Used it for several race applications, including Porsches.
Though it's swapped continuously after each use.
But also had good experience with it on street legal Porsches that are tracked.
Perhaps you had an incident with it? Care to share?
P.S I'm well familiar that it's not equivalent to SRF.
Though it's swapped continuously after each use.
But also had good experience with it on street legal Porsches that are tracked.
Perhaps you had an incident with it? Care to share?
P.S I'm well familiar that it's not equivalent to SRF.
05-26-2009, 02:58 PM
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GT3s have phenomenal brakes, and with the proper pads work fine without anything else. Probably any high quality fluid would be more than adequate, so yes, Pentosin Racing will work just fine.
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05-26-2009, 03:00 PM
#39
Former Vendor
Been in the Porsche brake biz for 6.5 yrs, I've spoken with each customer an average of 1/2 hr each - the stories and real life examples were helpful.
*ATE Blue is just a bit weak in marginal conditions, that is really the crux of it*
911SC with track preparation and R compound tires and higher friction pads - no thanks to ATE Blue.
Nothing but trouble regarding inconsistent pedal feel and sudden pedal to the floor on this setup - this was on my own 911SC.
Depends on the car, the driver experience, the intended use, and modifications, etc.
GT3 does not seem to mind so much which fluid, I'd use Motul RBF600 and be done with it. Works for a few hundred customers on that car ;-)
*ATE Blue is just a bit weak in marginal conditions, that is really the crux of it*
911SC with track preparation and R compound tires and higher friction pads - no thanks to ATE Blue.
Nothing but trouble regarding inconsistent pedal feel and sudden pedal to the floor on this setup - this was on my own 911SC.
Depends on the car, the driver experience, the intended use, and modifications, etc.
GT3 does not seem to mind so much which fluid, I'd use Motul RBF600 and be done with it. Works for a few hundred customers on that car ;-)
05-26-2009, 10:03 PM
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Obviously you have to use what you have to use ...meaning if you don't get any fade, then your fluid/replacement regimen is clearly working for you. And that's the point I operate under: why spend for "more fluid" than one needs? If brand x is working for you, I can see no reason to spend for higher-$$ fluid. Am I missing something here?
Of course everyone's car/driving style differes, but FWIW I have been using ATE Blue (or gold on occasion) for years now on both a stock 993 (with PFC pads) and now on a stock SC (but lightened to 2525 lbs w/ PFCs) without issue (TT, not Race). Given the cost/litre of ATE, it offers close to the best performance/buck fluid on that chart ...so long as it works for you, that is.
Edward
Of course everyone's car/driving style differes, but FWIW I have been using ATE Blue (or gold on occasion) for years now on both a stock 993 (with PFC pads) and now on a stock SC (but lightened to 2525 lbs w/ PFCs) without issue (TT, not Race). Given the cost/litre of ATE, it offers close to the best performance/buck fluid on that chart ...so long as it works for you, that is.
Edward
05-26-2009, 11:18 PM
#42
Former Vendor
Pretty much have to agree -
So many variables that if under the worst circumstances (hot day, tough track, advanced usage, heavy car, whatever else) it still works fine, why worry?
So many variables that if under the worst circumstances (hot day, tough track, advanced usage, heavy car, whatever else) it still works fine, why worry?
