Brian P

Seriously. I don't think I would have paid. If the tow truck driver is being honest, does he just show up at these events and wait for people needing tows? If the club isn't paying him for this, that must be what he's doing, right?

Also, they should really announce that policy ahead of time if that's what really happens. I bet you'd have a lot more people trying to drive their broken down, oil spilling mess of a car to pit lane if they have to pay for the tow.

dan212

Regarding posting crash vid's.. If it isn't you. Don't do it. If its you and someone else- its the same thing.

Insurance and all other factors aside, its ghoulish revelry in the misfortunes of others.

if I catch someone crashing on tape, they can have a private copy if they want. Thats it.

joseph mitro

tkerrmd.......you're a respectable racer. sounds like the kind we need more of!!

i disagree. IMHO it's generally accepted the corner is yours if you're at least halfway parallel to the competitior upon entering the corner, not at his rear bumper. now that's BMWCCA club racing, not sure what other organizations use as a guideline.

seriously!

sbelles

I don't know. I've never been clear on pic /video posting protocol but I'm guessing that his motivation was something along the lines of "code brown moment caught on tape" not "look at this asshat that ran into my buddy". His reply to a critical comment on YouTube bears that out.

What are you? 4 year's old? Both individuals involved are well qualified drivers who love racing. I was the silver car behind the crash. It was the opening lap of the first race of the weekend and there was a lot of adrenaline pumping in all of us. Both individuals handled the situation with professionalism and respect, IMHO. I have an idea. Why don't you put a $100K self funded car on the track at full race speed and then start calling people fu**in idiots. Until then shut the hell up.

I wouldn't post unless I either cleared it with those involved or the at-fault driver was an ******* about it; which you clearly were not. Was the wheel the only thing damaged on the Farrari?

**** happens. Way to Man-up Tom.

TrackDays247.com

If the video is of you and the other guy agrees to a public posting of it - AND insurance is not involved, go for it.

Anything else just results in unpredictable and hurt egos, feelings, pride and all that BS.

tkerrmd

I agree with that analysis and yes the car is very fast.
see ya out there!

DrJupeman

Fwiw, I don't see him taking a "DE" line, I see him taking the proper line when he doesn't think anyone is on his inside.

Veloce Raptor

Agreed.







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PedroNole

+1

Don't get caught up in the "he took the DE line" thought process. He was racing, was the lead into the corner and had the prerogative to take the corner any way he wanted. You hit him past the point where you should have been turning for the inside/overtaking line you were on.

Good racers not only have good control of themselves and their cars but they have good situational awareness and must think about the other drivers too. In this situation, here's what I would have thought:

Ok, if the guy in front of me gives me an opening, I can out-brake him and take him on the inside. I'm going to be on the inside line so I'm going to have to be able to slow down enough to make the corner. I see the guy in front of him too and if I don't slow down, I could plow right into him. Ok, make the pass, slow down, make the corner and go get the next guy.

It probably would not have occurred to me to try to take both because I am always more worried in 10 about slowing down once I overtake the other guy on the inside. If it would have occurred to me, it would have been more likely to have been on the LAST lap....

That said, **** happens when you're racing. You'll learn more from this than 3-4 clean weekends.

tkerrmd

Charlie, Peter you are both right and I appreciate your insight, I screwed up I will try to not have it happend again.

GT3CAR

Actually Scott that was me who replied to the stupid comment on youtube. 99.9% of the time I resist the urge to respond to stupid comments but I could not resist this time since it was by bud Tom......

Larry Herman

Based on that attitude, it probably won't happen again. I surmise that you will learn very quickly what is and what isn't a passing opportunity. One big thing that I have said about racecraft is that you have to know your car first, what it can and can't do, before you try and make those aggressive passes.

iLLM3

Glad you guy's are okay Tom, sucks to see though man You'll be out there in no time though!

tkerrmd

thanks Larry

and Lindsey I am proud to call you my friend, thanks for the support, I will be a better wing man next time. thanks again.

tom

Brinkley

T.
I am sure you have heard, to finish first, you first must finish.

The first race in your Turbo you have to understand you have more HP than 99.9%, no 100% of the cars on the grid, including the cup cars. Therefore, you have to use your years of education to say, I'll take one Ferrari at Turn 10 and the second at Tower Turn. If it doesn't work at Bishop's I know it will work at the end of the long back straight at Sebring.

I know, I know, adrenalene! refer back to the "educational statement above".

Are you planning to run the PBOC Homestead Race?

Didn't want to talk to you during the post race cool down, you didn't look too cooled down.

By the way, I have been pulled/towed from the course at Sebring due to contact and blown engine and have never paid the tow truck driver. He simply unhooked me and drove off.