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View Poll Results: Who will win the 2009 Monaco GP?
Alonso
5.45%
Barrichello
7.27%
Bourdais
1.82%
Button
29.09%
Fisichella
0
0%
Glock
0
0%
Hamilton
7.27%
Heidfeld
0
0%
Kovalainen
0
0%
Kubica
3.64%
Massa
7.27%
Nakajima
0
0%
Piquet
0
0%
Raikkonen
3.64%
Rosberg
0
0%
Sutil
0
0%
Trulli
1.82%
Vettel
30.91%
Webber
1.82%
Buemi
0
0%
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2009 Monaco Grand Prix

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Old 05-21-2009, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jpinkert
You're making my point. Anyone can cut and paste from another site and it'll start the discussion. It doesn't matter how factual the article is...the more controversial, the more discussion. You could just as easily look at one of the -many- F1 sites and post the info...boom...discussion would start.

Wayne gets heat for reaching totally illogical conclusions and his wacky 'insight'.
LOL......... Flew right over your head didn't it ...................
Time to move this more towards your knowledge base ...How's life after the winter Olympics

Originally Posted by brendorenn
now, Back to F1 topics:

Button stated that it would be nice to win in Monaco, but that Silverstone is his home race. interestingly, he's also staying low key, having been criticized for 'parking his yacht next to the circuit' by Flava Flav in the past.

one more thing - can we keep this discussion at the 14 year old level or higher? i love the rants and passion but let's at least try to keep it at an adult level
Don't be so hard on jpinkert , he has nuting to add...........


The Yacht parking situation came after Button's failed performance when he used to work for Flav .. In firing him flav commented on his lack of attn and poor performance hence the Yacht comment .

Button is starting to Look very Stoolmacher like , why even beating Barrichello like Stoolmacher used to , Stoolmacher 2 pit stops to barrichello's 5 , still didn't give Ruebin the advantage he just couldn't drive fast enuff...

Now if Button parks it during Qualy blocking the track , we have a new King

JP your serve ..............................
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
LOL......... Flew right over your head didn't it ...................
Time to move this more towards your knowledge base ...How's life after the winter Olympics
Originally Posted by A.Wayne
JP your serve ..............................
Uhh, I commented about you and not to you. Figure it out. It shouldn't be that tough for a guy with a big brain like you.
Old 05-21-2009, 09:27 PM
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Sorry JP not coming down ....... yep i will stay right up here


Ray get going , you are lagging ..............................

Barrichello tops first Monaco practice

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:17.189 25
2. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:17.499 + 0.310 31
3. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:17.578 + 0.389 25

4. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:17.686 + 0.497 29
5. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:17.839 + 0.650 30
6. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:18.000 + 0.811 29
7. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:18.024 + 0.835 27
8. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:18.080 + 0.891 27
9. Alonso Renault (B) 1:18.283 + 1.094 30
10. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:18.348 + 1.159 22
11. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:18.695 + 1.506 36
12. Piquet Renault (B) 1:19.204 + 2.015 36
13. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:19.233 + 2.044 16
14. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:19.255 + 2.066 30
15. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:19.534 + 2.345 27
16. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) 1:19.560 + 2.371 20
17. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:19.579 + 2.390 22
18. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:19.600 + 2.411 23
19. Glock Toyota (B) 1:19.698 + 2.509 23
20. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:19.831 + 2.642 28

Rosberg heads second Monaco practice

Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Rosberg Williams-Toyota (B) 1:15.243 45
2. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:15.445 + 0.202 34
3. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:15.590 + 0.347 40

4. Button Brawn-Mercedes (B) 1:15.774 + 0.531 35
5. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:15.832 + 0.589 41
6. Vettel Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:15.847 + 0.604 33
7. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:15.984 + 0.741 44
8. Raikkonen Ferrari (B) 1:15.985 + 0.742 42
9. Nakajima Williams-Toyota (B) 1:16.260 + 1.017 42
10. Piquet Renault (B) 1:16.286 + 1.043 42
11. Alonso Renault (B) 1:16.552 + 1.309 38
12. Webber Red Bull-Renault (B) 1:16.579 + 1.336 27
13. Sutil Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:16.675 + 1.432 37
14. Trulli Toyota (B) 1:16.915 + 1.672 42
15. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:16.983 + 1.740 47
16. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:17.052 + 1.809 47
17. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber (B) 1:17.109 + 1.866 39
18. Glock Toyota (B) 1:17.207 + 1.964 44
19. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes (B) 1:17.504 + 2.261 44
20. Kubica BMW-Sauber (B) No time 2

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Old 05-22-2009, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
Ray get going , you are lagging ..............................
Thank you for posting the results Wayne. I am up at Road America for a PCA DE (both driving and instructing) so I've got my hands full this weekend.

I appreciate the assist.

Here are my observations on the results

- Nice drive by Hammy
- Rosberg will probably be fast in practice and suck in the race yet again
- Kimi was smoked by Massa in practice 1 & 2. He needs to pick up his game
- I'm geniunely surprised Vettel is not faster
- I'm also surprised Miss Alonso was not higher and got beat by NP in practice 2
- Finally, I'm a little surprised the Toyota drivers ran so poorly

Then again mechanical grip is more important at Monaco than at most other tracks so it should equalize some of the advantage that cars with better aero have.
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Watched the practice tonight...

- Brawn is not showing everything in practice. They're faster than they are letting on (as in prior races).
- Poor Kubica blew a motor - how many motors has BMW chewed through already?
- If I heard correctly, Red Bulls are running a new rear diffuser. Perhaps the it will take some more time dialing in...
Old 05-22-2009, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray S
Thank you for posting the results Wayne. I am up at Road America for a PCA DE (both driving and instructing) so I've got my hands full this weekend.

I appreciate the assist.

Here are my observations on the results

- Nice drive by Hammy
- Rosberg will probably be fast in practice and suck in the race yet again
- Kimi was smoked by Massa in practice 1 & 2. He needs to pick up his game
- I'm geniunely surprised Vettel is not faster
- I'm also surprised Miss Alonso was not higher and got beat by NP in practice 2
- Finally, I'm a little surprised the Toyota drivers ran so poorly

Then again mechanical grip is more important at Monaco than at most other tracks so it should equalize some of the advantage that cars with better aero have.
Kimi has always struggled here , Alonso will be closer come Qualy , the toyota's I'm not surprised..
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I didn't see any reference to it, but no mention of Ferrari's VETO power over the FIA regs........

I find that very suspicious. Never know what goes on behind closed doors. Now the Ferrari lawyers showing up at McLarens appeal hearing last year about the chicane nonsense starts to make sense.

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If anyone noticed, the Ferrari veto and cashola advantage is out in the open. We should note that fact, as well as the fact that Ferrari are carrying the day for everyone else, including McLaren who have been muted. Ron has got to be going bonkers.

I have no idea who will win, but Vettel is perplexing.

If the 40M cap goes through, will Honda want back in? I mean....Lola? Prodrive? That odd F3 team whatcamacallit? What the hell is going on here? Take them over Ferrari?!?

Hamilton and Massa should finish in the points in Monaco, and Button's dad will ditch the pink shirt and white pants for a full on Liberace jumpsuit and cape.
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7 times Fuax Champion Stoolmacher benefited from Ferrari's strong armed Position . This can only be a surprise to his flock .....

Button is now Henjoying such a position as Bernie clamps on to Brawn as leverage to ram his single engine privateer can succeed plot down everyone's throat ......

What a sly Fox dat ole Bernie , he get's rid of all of his partners in 1 swoop

On the track :
Barrichello was complaining about turn in oversteer during practice , Brawn replied he could cure it with a 3 stopper ......
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
7 times Fuax Champion Stoolmacher benefited from Ferrari's strong armed Position . This can only be a surprise to his flock .....

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i'm looking for hammy and massa to really push here. they're pressing and this is their best opportunity to date
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Wonder if Trulli will need to drive with an engine rev cap since he's down 2 motors already.

We've had Schumi practicing his 3 point turns at the Final corner.
Wasn't it him that was honing his mad brake checking skills in the Tunnel.
What more shenanigans can there be at Monaco.
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What's the over/under for how long it takes from the start until Kimi is sunbathing on a yacht?


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