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IMO this is the key take-away in this thread. Many, many folks try to shift WAY too fast. That fact is, most of us aren't Leh Keen when it comes to downshifting, and shouldn't try to be.
Slow it down, get it right, and you'll end up faster overall.
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Slow it down, get it right, and you'll end up faster overall.
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Am I aspiring to engage and disengage the clutch in fractions of a second or does the car really drive the speed of the footwork?
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That was going to be my question. All these videos that show some incredible footwork don't portray reality in my car. So what's reasonable? I'm slow to let out the clutch. I certainly have much to learn and refine but a 25 year old 915 tranny that I won't rebuild at the end of every race weekend can't (or I can't make it) handle those stabbing clutch movements.
Am I aspiring to engage and disengage the clutch in fractions of a second or does the car really drive the speed of the footwork?
Am I aspiring to engage and disengage the clutch in fractions of a second or does the car really drive the speed of the footwork?
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IMO this is the key take-away in this thread. Many, many folks try to shift WAY too fast. That fact is, most of us aren't Leh Keen when it comes to downshifting, and shouldn't try to be.
Slow it down, get it right, and you'll end up faster overall.
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Slow it down, get it right, and you'll end up faster overall.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyM-egecTlw
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You mean like in this video..... I have watched this video probably 50 times and I'm still amazed how the shifting is lightning fast and to my knowledge, extremely perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyM-egecTlw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyM-egecTlw
And there is another one at Road Atlanta with IIRC a bunch of 6-5-4-3-2 downshifts into 10a.
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You mean like in this video..... I have watched this video probably 50 times and I'm still amazed how the shifting is lightning fast and to my knowledge, extremely perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyM-egecTlw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyM-egecTlw
#23
No footcam video - but you can get a good idea from this. This is just after the install of a G96 Cup car tranny and tilton clutch which shifts infinitely better than my old G50.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...39788208&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...39788208&hl=en
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No footcam video - but you can get a good idea from this. This is just after the install of a G96 Cup car tranny and tilton clutch which shifts infinitely better than my old G50.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...39788208&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...39788208&hl=en
Nicely done. The key to downshifting quickly IMO (besides having equipment that allows it...), especially on serious track/race cars with lightened flywheels and/or high compression, is blipping as you go into the next lower gear, rather than as you pass thru neutral on the way to that gear. Doing the former will sound like the above posted videos, and will yield a very stable car under braking. Doing the latter will yield a lot of rear tire chirping & revs increasing each time the cluch is fully released.
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#25
EXCELLENT POINT! One that I try to remind myself every time I go out. If only I could remember and execute this every time.
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Nicely done. The key to downshifting quickly IMO (besides having equipment that allows it...), especially on serious track/race cars with lightened flywheels and/or high compression, is blipping as you go into the next lower gear, rather than as you pass thru neutral on the way to that gear.
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Beat me too it. I still downshift that way. What a lot of guys may not realize is that the Cup Cars that you see have very low inertia motors (light cranks, pistons, rods, flywheel and very tiny clutches) and can make those lightning shifts. Most "normal" race motors/trans's cannot be shifted that quickly.
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Beat me too it. I still downshift that way. What a lot of guys may not realize is that the Cup Cars that you see have very low inertia motors (light cranks, pistons, rods, flywheel and very tiny clutches) and can make those lightning shifts. Most "normal" race motors/trans's cannot be shifted that quickly.
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here is another one of Leh Keen at sebring. note, he goes from 6th to 1st for one of the corners... lightning fast! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Mvm...om=PL&index=16