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Old 04-07-2009, 03:36 AM
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I am out for a day working and I can't even keep up with you all! ha ha some hilarious stuff here.

I bet you all could get something said... has to be the best F1 talk on the internet. I know of no other forum like this one for F1 banter.
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Originally Posted by Pete
Certainly the McLaren's were faster than Massa during quali.

It's really difficult to gauge the real speed of these (I hate to say this), 2nd tier, perhaps even 3rd tier teams of Ferrari and McLaren because of all the issues they have been having (Ferrari with reliability and Heikki would can't complete 2 turns before his race is over). The other issue is that both races have been absolutely crazy in terms of what has happened. Hamilton has been the only one of the 4 who has really gone deep into both races and he only has 1 point to show for it.

That being said, it does look like the McLaren has better race pace than the Ferraris and Ferrari the slightly better qualifying pace.

The real question is who can catch Brawn? I think everyone else on the grid was fortunate that yesterdays race didn't go the distance and Brawn only collected half the points they would have. The scary part is that the rain was supposed to be the great equilizer. Brawn cars were still very fast and that does not look good for the rest. Couple that with the fact that Brawn cars have shown to be fast on a street/park circuit as well as a traditional track... scary stuff for the rest of the field.

Virgin paid $250k for their logo on the Brawn cars the last 2 races and got about $10m of exposure. What if Larry takes up a collection and we get a Rennlist Logo on the car? Just a small one, nothing fancy....

Wayne, you posted the post qualifying weights of the cars after the Aussie race, but not after this race. Can you post those everytime after qualifying? It makes it easier.
Oh please school us with your immeasurable knowledge there Pete. Like the knowledge that says the McLarens are 3rd row teams and faster than MASSA who only did 4 laps and packed it in in quali, and still almost made Q2.

The McLarens don't have better race pace, the Ferrari's are just sucking so bad it's rediculous.

You shouldn't pretend to know anything, that way you won't come up short again.
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It's "ridiculous" not REDiculous, genius. You and Max Mosley should apply for mensa:/

Mosley suggests 'world engine' for 2013
07 April 2009


FIA President Max Mosley has made early suggestions for a revolutionary new engine; the powerplant, which could be introduced for the 2013 season, would feature in various FIA series ranging from Formula 1 to the World Rally Championship.

"We're looking at the moment at a world engine for 2013," Mosley said during a press conference at Rally Portugal last weekend. "That's to say an engine that would work in turbocharged form for F1, all the way down to a naturally aspirated form for the lesser categories. It's very early days, and we are doing this in consultation with the manufacturers; there's no question of us doing something between now and 2013, it's simply too short a period of time. If the idea of a world engine really starts to work, what exactly will happen in 2013 remains to be seen. What we would like to do is have an engine, take F1 for an example, where the base engine is not the subject of development."

Mosley explained that the FIA believes that, to ensure running costs are minimized, the engine itself should remain in one form with only added features, such as the Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS), being developed further.

Mosley continued: "Our basic objective is that the money spent in motorsport on research and development should be relevant and useful to the car industry, rather than a highly specialised area which has no relevance to anything else and, if we can - and I'm not sure we can though - find a way of combining all forms of motorsport in that system - that would be useful because of the huge sums spent on motorsport. It's not beyond our possibility that those sums could produce something useful for the future - even if it's long time in the future."
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Thanks for proving my point, Twig & Berries.







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Weber: Schumacher criticism unfounded

By Michele Lostia and Pablo Elizalde Tuesday, April 7th 2009, 09:20 GMT
autosport.com .

Michael Schumacher's manager Willi Weber has labelled as "idiotic" the criticism aimed at the seven-time world champion following the Malaysian Grand Prix.

German and Italia media report that Schumacher, who works as a consultant for the Ferrari team, was the man in charge of making the decision that ruined Kimi Raikkonen's race on Sunday, the Finn switching to extreme weather tyres too early.

Weber said Schumacher had nothing to do with it.

The German also suggested the former world champion's contract with Ferrari was unlikely to be renewed.

"The criticism aimed at Schumacher is totally idiotic," Weber was quoted as saying by Gazzetta dello Sport. "His contract with Ferrari ends at the end of the year, but I don't know whether it will be renewed.

"The attack against Schumacher makes no sense. He knows everyone and was in Sepang just by chance. The decisions from the pit wall were taken by the team.

"It's possible that his contract won't be renewed, but there will be a meeting midway through the year, so we'll have to wait.

"Should his contract really not be renewed, then it would certainly not be because of the Malaysian GP. Michael may give some advice to the team, but he is not the team leader nor the team manager at Ferrari."

Ferrari boss Stefano Domenicali refused to speak about Schumacher's situation following the race on Sunday.

"This is something we will discuss internally.............
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Originally Posted by jrotsaert
Looks like you edited your previous KVA reference to measure a voltage. Good for you.... You probably need to think a wee bit... How many antennae are around a racing circuit? Do you really think that lightening would choose a car with fat rubber tyres over a pointy antenna to get down? If you do, please tell me that you are not an electrical engineer!

Over and out, this is a racing forum.... even if your post did make me lagh!

i didn't edit anything, nor did i mention KVA in any post.
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
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You make this SO easy, Twig & Berries, yet you just don't see it, do you?







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Woot. World Engine.


I had been thinking about Grand Prix's of yore and the MIGHTY Cosworth DFV came to mind.

That engine has been in lots of places/teams.



Ferrari needs to get a better crystal ball.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
You make this SO easy, Twig & Berries, yet you just don't see it, do you?







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I'm impressed stump and raisins....

I just can't get over seeing so much knowledge , wisdom and vision all in one package , Hoffman wouldn't stand a chance getting that rainman part if you showed up ......



Ohh, yes ! your technical f1 input is astounding, as good as pete's , really !..........
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Originally Posted by ew928
Woot. World Engine.


I had been thinking about Grand Prix's of yore and the MIGHTY Cosworth DFV came to mind.

That engine has been in lots of places/teams.



Ferrari needs to get a better crystal ball.
Careful i was burnt at the stake for suggesting such a possible direction for F1,
Engines would possibly be supplied by ferrari and Mercedes
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Originally Posted by Pete
Mosley suggests 'world engine' for 2013
07 April 2009


FIA President Max Mosley has made early suggestions for a revolutionary new engine; the powerplant, which could be introduced for the 2013 season, would feature in various FIA series ranging from Formula 1 to the World Rally Championship.
This revolutionary new engine would also be extremely environmentally friendly, being constructed entirely out of recycled, hand-me-down lego building blocks. Err, maybe lincoln logs...r-I-diculous going to a spec motor...
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Originally Posted by Ray S
Better still would be a pic of all the color draining out of Wayne's face as the words are spoken......
Color in Wayne's face? Wouldn't he have to go outside to get some of that? I kinda picture him wandering around, overserved , in a bunker between his FA shrine and his F1 operations center.
Old 04-07-2009, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ew928
...So who's the first team to work in the new diffuser into their package (other than the first three) once the enhanced diffuser is declared legal. Will more rear downforce settle the McLarens.
Originally Posted by Pete
Ask and you shall receive......

BMW developing Brawn-like diffuser
06 April 2009...
Of course all teams are developing them already and while BMW does have a lot of resources, McLaren most likely will be the 1st.
If everything goes as expected (nothing nowadays in F1 does though...) McLaren will have theirs ready two weeks from now in China.
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why does the appeals process take so damned long? it's amazing to me that they wouldn't settle this sooner to avoid an additional race's worth of penalty to whomever the FIA rules against.....

they're like the cable company, "we'll be there sometime between eleven and....er...whenever earth crashes into the sun."
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne

I just can't get over seeing so much knowledge , wisdom and vision all in one package , Hoffman wouldn't stand a chance getting that rainman part if you showed up ......



Ohh, yes ! your technical f1 input is astounding, as good as pete's , really !..........

Oh, the MIND-BOGGLING IRONY....







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Originally Posted by insite
why does the appeals process take so damned long? it's amazing to me that they wouldn't settle this sooner to avoid an additional race's worth of penalty to whomever the FIA rules against.....

they're like the cable company, "we'll be there sometime between eleven and....er...whenever earth crashes into the sun."

I agree, now you have teams wasting money developing parts that could be declared illegal as soon as they finish developing them. That is pure stupidity, just so a group of stiffs can have time to ponder on it. Maybe the FIA should have to pay for the wasted money for taking so long.


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