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03-19-2009, 08:50 AM
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03-19-2009, 09:36 AM
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i'd also like to see you point out where I have said that "slicks are the same as toyos and hoosiers"
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03-19-2009, 10:05 AM
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The ONLY thing I've ever said with regards to Hoosier R-comps and slicks is that the lap time and grip difference is not nearly as big as some folks want to make it out to be...usually folks who need an excuse for why they aren't going fast. Toyo R-comps are a totally different ballgame.
Properly setup for each tire, a car can turn very similar fast laps and achieve very similar amounts of grip. The biggest difference comes in consistency...the R-comps come up to temp sooner and are a MUCH better tire than even the soft compound slicks for the first 1-2 laps. After that, the slicks tend to catch up and will stay consistent quite a bit longer than the R-comps. Ultimately, slicks are faster, but the gap has narrowed quite a bit in the last 3-4 years as Hoosier, Hankook, Avon, and Kumho have gone head to head with their R-comp "slicks" that have only 1-2 grooves to meet D.O.T. regs.
Mark - I'm not sure why you continue fighting me on this. As far as I know, all you ever run are Toyo's. I don't believe you've ever had both Hoosier R-comps and slicks on your car, must less in the same weekend, as we have.
Properly setup for each tire, a car can turn very similar fast laps and achieve very similar amounts of grip. The biggest difference comes in consistency...the R-comps come up to temp sooner and are a MUCH better tire than even the soft compound slicks for the first 1-2 laps. After that, the slicks tend to catch up and will stay consistent quite a bit longer than the R-comps. Ultimately, slicks are faster, but the gap has narrowed quite a bit in the last 3-4 years as Hoosier, Hankook, Avon, and Kumho have gone head to head with their R-comp "slicks" that have only 1-2 grooves to meet D.O.T. regs.
Mark - I'm not sure why you continue fighting me on this. As far as I know, all you ever run are Toyo's. I don't believe you've ever had both Hoosier R-comps and slicks on your car, must less in the same weekend, as we have.
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03-19-2009, 01:50 PM
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03-19-2009, 01:51 PM
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03-19-2009, 02:11 PM
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Damn, Seth only 0.006 sec off pole. WELL DONE!!!!!!!!
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03-19-2009, 03:37 PM
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I was just coming to hoop an hurray about Seth qualifying 2nd only to find this crap.
Also caught me off guard to see Porsche's 1,3 and 4 (or 2,3 and 5). And then they'll still get hit with penalties anyways.
Poor Randy didn't even get a time in. I wonder how long before buyers remorse sets in for Kapax............
Also caught me off guard to see Porsche's 1,3 and 4 (or 2,3 and 5
). And then they'll still get hit with penalties anyways.Poor Randy didn't even get a time in. I wonder how long before buyers remorse sets in for Kapax............