Allview mirror vs wink
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+1 Wink -- I have no idea why people say you see five or four of the same image. As others have suggested the lines between the mirrors go away and you can see out both rear quarter windows.
You can see it in the avatar as the dark area between the two cage diagonals.
You can see it in the avatar as the dark area between the two cage diagonals.
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Mine is a one piece panoramic but I don't know what brand. I like it. I have never tried the Wink mirror so... What did you have before? Why would you look in the mirrors anyway?
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I always fabricate custom brackets for the ones I install, as the stuff offered is too whippy and short. I make bracketry out of heavier stock so that there is zero vibration, and also much longer slotted arms so that you can get it far enough away from you to glance into easily.
I had to fab longer mounts too. I sit so low in my 944 I can barely see over the steering wheel. The wink mirror is very low and mounted from the body of the car,but still in the ideal spot. It is not quite straight in the car either, but this spot works best. Custom mounts are the way to go.
I also used the end mounts and center supports to minimize vibrations. Works great now with the 4pt mount.
Here is my car and friend's car with Wink
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You see multiple images if it is poorly adjusted. I spent time fab-ing brackets to get mine in the exact right position, and now it's perfect. I think a 4 panel is the biggest you can fit in an aircooled 911.
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I think whatever aftermarket mirror you get, the important thing is how you mount it based on your driving position. I had a 4 panel Wink that I could not get tight enough and it would shake so bad that I could not see anything. A bracket helped stabalize it, but still shaks.
I bought an Allview and the problem with it is that with my driving position, my helmet is against it as it is mounted on the front bar, so I do not have good visibility. I do not notice any distortion with either, but it is back to figuring out how to mount them for maximum visibility and satbility.
I bought an Allview and the problem with it is that with my driving position, my helmet is against it as it is mounted on the front bar, so I do not have good visibility. I do not notice any distortion with either, but it is back to figuring out how to mount them for maximum visibility and satbility.
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I think whatever aftermarket mirror you get, the important thing is how you mount it based on your driving position. I had a 4 panel Wink that I could not get tight enough and it would shake so bad that I could not see anything. A bracket helped stabalize it, but still shaks..
+/-1 Convex -- I don't like the the 'objects in your mirror' bit -- I have driven with them and they are pretty easy to get used too; but... I hopped in a car a few years ago to do a promotion eval. I was watching the little side mirror and hinted a few times to the driver about over-taking traffic. He said that the traffic was not that close -- curiously, I also could see using his center mirror because of the shape. He had some other issues and wasn't promoted; but when checking around the paddock with a few other instructors, I learned they were annoyed because he was not giving their student's passing signals. Kurt probably remembers this clown in the silver car.
Since I could see back from the right seat using his center mirror, was his mirror just poorly adjusted, or is this a characteristic of a convex mirror?
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Joe P -- thx for pics. I drilled lower holes on seat mount and and i'm kinda short (5'8") so I'm gonna sit pretty low. ...maybe an inch or so two higher than the gent in red 944.
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