We are truly blessed here on Rennlist! While most people have trouble deciding what THEY really want when it comes to subjects important to them, we are blessed with those who actually know what we should want, and are willing to take their time to tell us!

 

Your realy just jealous of people with more money, there's no way you could possibly be having the most fun unless you are racing the quickest car with the most technology or your just plain lying... lol

 

Damn, you figured me out....no money and a liar.....wait! Does that then mean I have money??????

 

I think some are confusing fun with rewarding. To me it's more fun to go racing - but more rewarding to help an elderly person in time of need. The more "rewarding" car to drive is the car that makes you feel good inside - different cars for different people - Not sure that there is a 100% correct answer to this question - but a great question none the less - good one Larry!!!

Lou Lipari
1992 968 Firehawk
PCA Nationally Certified Instructor

 

Uh..........don't equate SR3 with "fastest"..........quick, driveable, reasonably priced (when it was 1.5 USD to a pound, anyway), pretty reliable, and can make mortals look pretty good.........I'll buy into all that. But there are many, many more options if your goal is "fastest".

 

I'm completely with you sir- it's my aim to have said monies one day so that I CAN drive an RS spyder (or whatever LM prototype) in ALMS. falling short of that goal, running a GT2 class car at 24H Lemans would play second fiddle.

time is my biggest enemy right now, although we all know that time is money, so they're both my enemies until they're my friends.

 

Returning to Larry's question, for me, my GT3 is clearly more rewarding to drive on the track than my prior ride, a Lotus Elise, almost purely because of the power. At least in a DE, the ability to brake way late and carry speed deep into the corner is wiped out by the lack of drive out of the corners and speed on the straights. As long as there are only other Lotuses, older Porsches, Boxters and the like out there with you, it's OK, but when the higher HP cars show up behind you it's off the gas and left arm out the window. Definitely not rewarding. So I am forced to concede, as a guy who only drove lower HP cars prior to the GT3, that power can have a major correlation to reward. YMMV.

 

sure, my point was that it is faster than most Porsche GT cars.

After 4 pages, we've discovered that different people like different things. Go figure.

 

At least you have one of the desired ingredients, your on the right track, time will come (in time) lol

 

hey let's face it, it's totally against all odds- but so was me making it into this career. at least between now and then I'm getting a S***-load of seat time, instruction, and more seat time, and more instruction

 

I have a simple formula to measure how rewarding the car is. The longer it takes you to get the grin off of your face after a session, the more rewarding the car. After all, if you are not enjoying your car then you have the wrong car or the wrong hobby. It really doesn't matter if your car is the fastest thing on the planet if you don't find pleasure in driving it. Someone told me that the idea of DE is not to drive fast but to drive perfect. Any car is a challenge to drive perfectly and will reward a driver who handles the car correctly.

 

Yeah,
Rewarding following a race is entirely different. Then again "rewarding" would be attached to the race and not the car itself. IE go through the dirt in turn 1 screw the alignmnet so the car handles poorly yet you still through sheer will drive the **** out of the car and come back to win your class (or even just do well) vs strong competition and that is DAMN REWARDING. The car may suck, but the drive.....

 

Yeah,
I am not a pro racer. I am a weekend warrior with family to support and come home to. I want to have fun when racing. While a GT3 would be fun I don't know that I would be THAT much more fun. Certainly the cost is just way outside of what I can afford, but even money no object the speeds that I would go flying off the track in GT3 would greater than my 944. Do I really need that? These days I get alot of fun from going to the limit in low hp beast running door handle to door handle with a friend/competitor in the same car knowing skill is what going to win the day. Even then at the end of the day winning is not everything it is mostly about how well I raced and how well I conducted myself on course. If I had I knock down drag out fight with another car and still came in 2nd it would be alot more fun than beating that same car with 10 second gap. Sure the "win" might be nice, but the most fun is in the racing.

So my point is if I go 944 speeds or GT3 Cup speeds I don't know that is any different if I am in a good racing with another skilled driver.

 

I'm helping a friend sort out his in-process IROC wide-body 911 and drove it again this weekend. While very similar (up to a a certain point a 911 is a 911) to my car, it seemed like an almost completely different experience. Grip (more), Power (less), cockpit feel difference (big time), etc.

I actually got a lot out of doing 12 laps in his car on Sunday and am already trying to equate to changes in me in my car. Even though I can't drive my car EXACTLY how I could drive his, driving his shed some light on what I can do in mine to go faster that, but for the 12 laps, I might not have realized. Thus, different car and a "rewarding" experience.

So, Larry, my answer is that they are all rewarding and for different reasons. Your experiences in your 4 different track cars all combine (even in the smallest way) to making you a better driver. So, for me, I couldn't rank one as more rewarding overall.....even when comparing a GT3 Cup to a Miata....

 

Colin, yes I want a better car. The "better" car is in the garage right now. My currant RSA would be my better car if I had the jingle to upgrade brakes, suspension, etc, etc. Otherwise I'm pretty content.