Just how reliable is your domestic truck (Suburban/Excursion/Tahoe/Expedition, etc.)?
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With regards to those GM trucks, You'll also want to inspect the hardline that runs inside the frame rail from the drivers front to driver's rear brake system. On BOTH GM trucks I owned and one I inspected for a friend the hard brakeline failed due to rust, at about the 130K mile mark. One of the vehicles had seen North Carolina Beach driving, bt the other two didn't see any salt water exposure. LInes failed on all three at about the same mileage and the years ranged from 1993(GMC 1500) to 1998 (Z71) and a 2001 5.3l quad cab.
All three also suffered failed in tank fuel pumps at about 150K miles.
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All three also suffered failed in tank fuel pumps at about 150K miles.
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Once my 96 yukon got a new engine,transmission,brakes,rotors,ac it has been great !I only use it to tow or when snow is over two feet !
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Please note that there is presently no unified measurement between the various manufacturers on how to measure towing capacity. Ford, Dodge and GM have formed a joint industry task force to come up with a standard. I believe this comes from the various claims that they were making themselves as well as the companies that are relatively new to the large pick up market. At present there really is no way to do an apples to apples comparison between the various manufacturers from there literature.
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Please note that there is presently no unified measurement between the various manufacturers on how to measure towing capacity. Ford, Dodge and GM have formed a joint industry task force to come up with a standard. I believe this comes from the various claims that they were making themselves as well as the companies that are relatively new to the large pick up market. At present there really is no way to do an apples to apples comparison between the various manufacturers from there literature.
Trust me; it's better.
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I understand, but the various manufacturers don't even have a standard they follow. For example if Chevy claims an improved towing capacity then Ford will tweak some variable and presto this year's model, the same as last year's, has a better towing capacity. The task group is just trying to come up with a method of measuring a vehicles capability, even from year to year.
Toyota makes an extremely capable vehicle that are second to none.
Toyota makes an extremely capable vehicle that are second to none.
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That is why many of us have been using no more than 75% of the rated "towing capacity" as a limit for many years, as well as the GCVWR. I often use even less. I find that some domestic manufacturers do list some of their assumptions in the small print of their owner's manuals....such as the common assumption of "one 150lb driver, no passengers, no cargo" for the vehicle itself.
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So Ive owned 3 chevys and 2 toyotas.
Chevy 1 1 tranny 2 engines ac compressor water pump fuel pump control arm bushings egr valve 4x4 actuator probably more.
Chevy 2 1 tranny, 1 transfer case, radiator, water pump, fuel pump, 4x4 actuator, fuel pump window motor, ac blower motor, resitor pack inlet manifold gasket, probably more.
Chevy 3 old 70s one nothing went wrong![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Toyota 1 nothing.
Toyota 2 mirror mechanism.
Both toyotas were offroaded hard the chevys were not bar the older one. I only changed toyota 1 because it was rolled. I still have toyota 2. Both toyotas were 175k plus in miles both newer chevys were closer to 100k. Theres no comparision. Oh and the chevys rattle and the seats come apart.
But the suburban is a good tow vehicle.
Chevy 1 1 tranny 2 engines ac compressor water pump fuel pump control arm bushings egr valve 4x4 actuator probably more.
Chevy 2 1 tranny, 1 transfer case, radiator, water pump, fuel pump, 4x4 actuator, fuel pump window motor, ac blower motor, resitor pack inlet manifold gasket, probably more.
Chevy 3 old 70s one nothing went wrong
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Toyota 1 nothing.
Toyota 2 mirror mechanism.
Both toyotas were offroaded hard the chevys were not bar the older one. I only changed toyota 1 because it was rolled. I still have toyota 2. Both toyotas were 175k plus in miles both newer chevys were closer to 100k. Theres no comparision. Oh and the chevys rattle and the seats come apart.
But the suburban is a good tow vehicle.
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My father is about to turn 210,000 with his 2000 Yukon XL - no issues except rust
Friend of mine has a 230,000+ mile Suburban 2500 that still looks like new and pulls like it. He jokes about how he didn't even change the spark plugs until it reached 200k on the odo. 90% of those miles has been towing an enclosed trailer with 3,000+ pound car and gear.
Friend of mine has a 230,000+ mile Suburban 2500 that still looks like new and pulls like it. He jokes about how he didn't even change the spark plugs until it reached 200k on the odo. 90% of those miles has been towing an enclosed trailer with 3,000+ pound car and gear.
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1996 Suburban 1500 4wd-203K miles-2 fuel pumps, 1 alternator
2002 Suburban 1500 4wd-202K miles (current dd)-new diff at 175K, fuel pump at 100K.
Would buy a new one in a heartbeat but this one runs so well that I won't get rid of it until it starts to nickel and dime me.
2002 Suburban 1500 4wd-202K miles (current dd)-new diff at 175K, fuel pump at 100K.
Would buy a new one in a heartbeat but this one runs so well that I won't get rid of it until it starts to nickel and dime me.