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Old 04-22-2008, 08:32 AM
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on my list...

Allow removal of passenger seat in stock classes
Allow full removal of flammable interior bits in stock classes
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Originally Posted by 1957 356
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Allow removal of passenger seat in stock classes
Allow full removal of flammable interior bits in stock classes
Wonder what is better, to send in one letter with a list signed by a number of drivers or individual letters with the same proposals?
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Remove AC components in air cooled cars.

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Now that GTB is becoming a more popular class, I would love to see GTB be split up into two seperate classes. Right now, GTB is a class which includes all 996 and 997 based raced cars and for someone like me who races a '99 3.4 liter, it is hard (if not impossible at times) to compete with a 3.6 liter 996, not to mention a 997. If I had my way, I would split GTB into two classes; GTB1 would include all 3.4 liter 996 cars and GTB2 would include all 3.6 liter 996 and 997 cars. Something would also need to be done to safeguard against someone enterting a 3.8 liter 997S into this class. Maybe GTB3? Anyways, here is my .02 cents
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I agree. In my opinion this is an obsolete rule that does nothing to improve competition or safety of the cars. I just don't get it.
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Originally Posted by 1957 356
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Allow removal of passenger seat in stock classes
Allow full removal of flammable interior bits in stock classes
ill second those
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Originally Posted by BluemaxxRacing
Now that GTB is becoming a more popular class, I would love to see GTB be split up into two seperate classes. Right now, GTB is a class which includes all 996 and 997 based raced cars and for someone like me who races a '99 3.4 liter, it is hard (if not impossible at times) to compete with a 3.6 liter 996, not to mention a 997. If I had my way, I would split GTB into two classes; GTB1 would include all 3.4 liter 996 cars and GTB2 would include all 3.6 liter 996 and 997 cars. Something would also need to be done to safeguard against someone enterting a 3.8 liter 997S into this class. Maybe GTB3? Anyways, here is my .02 cents
Or maybe have a lower min weight for various cars. 2700 for 3.4 2800 for 3.6 2900 for "s".
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Modified 13/13 that allows drivers having a single car incident to finish their weekend.
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
Wonder what is better, to send in one letter with a list signed by a number of drivers or individual letters with the same proposals?
I may be wrong but I think it would be more compelling to send in a letter that has several dozen signatures or at least list the names of those who support it with contact info if the submission is done electronically.
  • I think the idea of removing flammable items from the interior of stock cars is a good proposal.
  • The ideal of removing the passenger seats in stock cars goes directly to the issue of how much PCA racing has changed. Oringinally, stock classes were so you could drive your car to the track & race it...a lot has changed. I could support this.
  • I agree with removing A/C but feel that it should be for all stock classes...not just air cooled cars.
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Originally Posted by chrisp
Modified 13/13 that allows drivers having a single car incident to finish their weekend.
ooh...thats good too...
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Originally Posted by Rick
I may be wrong but I think it would be more compelling to send in a letter that has several dozen signatures or at least list the names of those who support it with contact info if the submission is done electronically.
  • I think the idea of removing flammable items from the interior of stock cars is a good proposal.
  • The ideal of removing the passenger seats in stock cars goes directly to the issue of how much PCA racing has changed. Oringinally, stock classes were so you could drive your car to the track & race it...a lot has changed. I could support this.
  • I agree with removing A/C but feel that it should be for all stock classes...not just air cooled cars.
I would strongly support the first one. The other two are nice, but I can't really make a strong case for them.
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All great! Has someone ever compiled how many truly "street driven" cars have been entered in a club race in the past, say, 5 years v. 15 years ago when things first got going? I'd hate to be the one dude with 2nd degree (or worse) burns from a wreck that could have been much, much, much less severe without all the plastic and other flammable material around..........
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Is this really a vote generating proposition? Meaning, does it matter if they get a single submission or a submission (more like a petition) with dozens of signatures? My take has always been that whatever is submitted goes on a list, the list is reviewed and then voted on by a committee. I didn't think popularity of the idea mattered, just sensibility and it being within the spirit of PCA racing. Otherwise they would post ideas and ask for a club wide vote, wouldn't they?
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Originally Posted by race911
All great! Has someone ever compiled how many truly "street driven" cars have been entered in a club race in the past, say, 5 years v. 15 years ago when things first got going? I'd hate to be the one dude with 2nd degree (or worse) burns from a wreck that could have been much, much, much less severe without all the plastic and other flammable material around..........
What I don't get about the "we require a flammable interior" rule is that I don't believe an interior is required as part of a car inspection. So, the car can still be street legal without an interior, passenger car seat, A/C, etc.

FWIW, except for that I no longer have a horn on the car, my car is still street legal.


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