Any helpful hints on renting race cars?
04-15-2008, 10:29 AM
#16
No really. 
I started this thread because I was trying to ask questions about reliable sources of rental cars, problems that people have had in the past, options to consider, etc . . .
I can't get another car now, nor do I want to at the moment.
If I could get into a car for a weekend or two (e.g., VIR CR plus SP CR), it would be great. If I can't make that work, well, I will just continue to be in a pissy mood for the upcoming years.
I started this thread because I was trying to ask questions about reliable sources of rental cars, problems that people have had in the past, options to consider, etc . . .
I can't get another car now, nor do I want to at the moment.
If I could get into a car for a weekend or two (e.g., VIR CR plus SP CR), it would be great. If I can't make that work, well, I will just continue to be in a pissy mood for the upcoming years.
04-15-2008, 10:30 AM
#17
04-15-2008, 10:39 AM
#18
Three Wheelin'
04-15-2008, 10:41 AM
#19
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The best way, IMO, is to find someone who regularly rents cars and talk to people who have rented from them in the past. Expect a hefty deposit. Most REAL rentals I have seen have, at the least, a tell-tale tach.
Assume that ANYTHING that happens to the car is on you. The burden of proof for you to not be charged and any questionable areas favor the car owner - that is why you want some references. It is also great if you get a test day, or know the car has been raced in the very recent past - that helps ensure it is reasonable setup and ready to go, as long as YOU can verify. I have seen people get cars that are almost undriveable.
I can't help with specific people to rent from in the PCA world, but I could point you to folks in SCCA for SRF and perhaps other options.
Assume that ANYTHING that happens to the car is on you. The burden of proof for you to not be charged and any questionable areas favor the car owner - that is why you want some references. It is also great if you get a test day, or know the car has been raced in the very recent past - that helps ensure it is reasonable setup and ready to go, as long as YOU can verify. I have seen people get cars that are almost undriveable.
I can't help with specific people to rent from in the PCA world, but I could point you to folks in SCCA for SRF and perhaps other options.
04-15-2008, 10:48 AM
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now where have I heard this before... 
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-and-drivers-education-forum/383624-advice-on-renting-race-cars.html#post4655862
https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-and-drivers-education-forum/383624-advice-on-renting-race-cars.html#post4655862
04-15-2008, 10:48 AM
#21
The best way, IMO, is to find someone who regularly rents cars and talk to people who have rented from them in the past. Expect a hefty deposit. Most REAL rentals I have seen have, at the least, a tell-tale tach.
Assume that ANYTHING that happens to the car is on you. The burden of proof for you to not be charged and any questionable areas favor the car owner - that is why you want some references. It is also great if you get a test day, or know the car has been raced in the very recent past - that helps ensure it is reasonable setup and ready to go, as long as YOU can verify. I have seen people get cars that are almost undriveable.
I can't help with specific people to rent from in the PCA world, but I could point you to folks in SCCA for SRF and perhaps other options.
Assume that ANYTHING that happens to the car is on you. The burden of proof for you to not be charged and any questionable areas favor the car owner - that is why you want some references. It is also great if you get a test day, or know the car has been raced in the very recent past - that helps ensure it is reasonable setup and ready to go, as long as YOU can verify. I have seen people get cars that are almost undriveable.
I can't help with specific people to rent from in the PCA world, but I could point you to folks in SCCA for SRF and perhaps other options.
Who here has rented cars in the past?
From whom did you rent?
Good experience or bad?
If you are shy, you can PM.
If you have contacted me in the past about renting me a car, I am considering all of those offers, I am just trying to get recommendations.
Steve, I don't think your car is compliant with current PCA rules, and I am also hesitant about renting/sharing from friends and acquintances (although that could potentially work out if all details are discussed in advance).
04-15-2008, 11:22 AM
#25
Drifting
04-15-2008, 11:26 AM
#26
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I rent stuff for a living and the rule of thumb in my Industry is normal wear and tear is the lessor's responsibility and any thing above that is deemed abuse and is the responsibility of the lessee. If I could rent someone an item and lay off all the responsibility on them I would do it in a heartbeat. How could you not make money?
04-15-2008, 11:44 AM
#27
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Todd
Do you need a roof over your head?
The Skip Barber Regional Race Series, in their 2L Formula Cars, sounds perfect for the hit you need.
You show up, get in the car, and go. Truly arrive and drive.
they run at most of the big name tracks. Qualifying, two races a weekend with a "Memorial" race for a few hundie extra at the end of the weekend, time permitting.
All the cars are equal, and well maintained.
They set the run groups to provide good competition for everyone.
They are very good about mechanical failures - it's on them. If you crash it, you have a deductible. Over the deductible it's on them.
When I was racing with them the deductible was $3000. I did have a $5500 incident in turn 7 at Road America which cost me $3000.
The cars are a hoot to drive, with sequential trannies.
I still sometimes think about going back to them on occasion
Do you need a roof over your head?
The Skip Barber Regional Race Series, in their 2L Formula Cars, sounds perfect for the hit you need.
You show up, get in the car, and go. Truly arrive and drive.
they run at most of the big name tracks. Qualifying, two races a weekend with a "Memorial" race for a few hundie extra at the end of the weekend, time permitting.
All the cars are equal, and well maintained.
They set the run groups to provide good competition for everyone.
They are very good about mechanical failures - it's on them. If you crash it, you have a deductible. Over the deductible it's on them.
When I was racing with them the deductible was $3000. I did have a $5500 incident in turn 7 at Road America which cost me $3000.
The cars are a hoot to drive, with sequential trannies.
I still sometimes think about going back to them on occasion
04-15-2008, 11:50 AM
#28
You know what Mike, that sounds awesome and just about perfect. I will talk to skippie about that.
The only reason I was trying to do PCA was to hang out with some of you guys.
The only reason I was trying to do PCA was to hang out with some of you guys.
04-15-2008, 11:53 AM
#29
Nordschleife Master
to arrive and drive for a few check out the skippy series. They do regional as well as national. It is a few grand for a weekend. I have a friend that does it and he has a great time.
04-15-2008, 12:24 PM
#30
Another option is to talk to Dave D about renting one of his stable of 944 SP cars for these events. DD is a stand-up guy, and potentially much more reasonable to deal with than a more commercially-oriented operation.