ervtx

I don't experience it as a continuously variable thing. Early on, I would only notice it while in the middle of a major correction, lasting for 2 or more seconds, and the end result was a significant reduction in forward motion. Lately I've noticed it as a much less intrusive, split-second incremental input that amplifies what I'm already doing anyway. Good example was ECR T7 in the ice...

But either way, it's certainly noticeable. Not as obvious as ABS, more like
"uh? hey, where did my torque go?... oh... er,.. guess I better watch that more closely next time around, huh?".

BTW, every time, the instructor on my right notices it also, and seems more relieved than I to have felt it too!

mglobe

To my knowledge, the only times PSM has kicked in on my car, there has been a clear indication of it. Specifically, I've noticed an ABS type of pulsing of the brakes on certain wheels. It has been unmistakable. Most recently, and the only time it has intervened when I didn't want it to, was in the carousel at TWS after the oil-spill during the last DE. I could feel it grabbing on a wheel when I took the turn with two wheels in the oil line, and two out. Otherwise, when it has clearly kicked in i was REALLY glad it did.

At least twice, with VR in the car with me, I got sideways. Once in T4, once in T7 , both times as the result of a chicken lift. Both times I heard gas gas gas, from the right seat, and both times we straightened up and went on with no intervention from PSM.

I'm of the impression that there are significant differences between the 996 and 997 versions of PSM, with the latter being much less intrusive.

Veloce Raptor

While this is usually the advice I give 911 drovers when encountering situations like we did in those instances, it is quite possible that I was commenting on the outcome of what I had for lunch as well.

TR6

Been there, done that! 911's don't like a chicken lift in a turn...
I like the saying I read somewhere regarding 911's and staying on the gas... "If you find yourself in trouble in a 911, mash down on the throttle. It may not always solve the problem, but at least it will end the suspense..."

rickdm

Well I have to confess to a little deviousness with the PSM. I was assigned a new Green student on a Sunday, and I had followed this student in another car on Saturday and their driving was particularly erratic. When i looked down from the passenger seat before the first session I noticed that the PSM had been turned off. When the student looked out the window to wave at a friend I discreetly turned it back on. I wasn't being a total chicken****, I just kind of thought the student would appreciate being able to take their car home with all the parts still attached

ervtx

While the volume and timing of this most basic phrase varies considerably across individual instructors, its effectiveness must certainly be a function of nothing but the thickness of the student's skull?

ervtx

Amazing. I look at that as you doing everyone else a favor.

Veloce Raptor

Sometimes yes. Sometimes it is genuine fear/apprehension on the student's part, which is totally natural and normal. We have ALL been there, and it definitely takes some gentle coaching & encouragement--and not macho intimidation--to help some folks get mentally comfortable with the concept.

ervtx

Well, if it ever happens to you in my car, you have permission dispense with the gentleness, and deliver it with a sense of urgency!

Veloce Raptor

LMAO...hopefully Mglobe would agree that I am capable of doing both simultaneously!

DRG13

I'll be there Saturday, looking forward to catching up with folks I haven't seen in a while..

C.J. Ichiban

Dan, I saw your car at Ruf yesterday...that new RS wing/decklid looks AWESOME!

mglobe

It's true. VR can both pass gas and do it with urgency at the same time.

amondc

CJ was that your RS at RUF? I was there thurs morning and was wondering if that was your car?

Veloce Raptor

I am a highly trained professional.