Tow Vehicles (Ford F450)
01-29-2008, 09:53 PM
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so to help everyone feel good I use the 450 only locally and use a 2003 Monaco Windsor with a 370 turbo Cummins... tow a 24 foot with a 2000 cup car.. about 8000 lbs... I average 6 MPG... so everything is relative... I love them both
01-29-2008, 09:55 PM
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I have a 2000 F450 with the 7.3 and it came only with the 4.88 rear end then.
Two years later they came out with the 4.30. My truck has 90,000 miles and gets 12 to 12.5 MPG. When I am towing I pull a 46' gooseneck with two cars. Then milage drops to a putrid 7 - 8 Mpg. It has been a totally solid haul vehicle though. When I drove with a different flatbed trailor to Florida hauling one car only and the hills in Kentucky and Georgia slowed me to 45 in some places.
On flat ground holding 75 with the big trailer is no problem. I wish I had the 4.30 rear end because I think it would help Mpg and exhaust temperature.
I am chipped and have to use a pyro so as to not blow my motor. I try to keep the exhaust at 1250 or below. Aluminum starts melting at 13??
Two years later they came out with the 4.30. My truck has 90,000 miles and gets 12 to 12.5 MPG. When I am towing I pull a 46' gooseneck with two cars. Then milage drops to a putrid 7 - 8 Mpg. It has been a totally solid haul vehicle though. When I drove with a different flatbed trailor to Florida hauling one car only and the hills in Kentucky and Georgia slowed me to 45 in some places.
On flat ground holding 75 with the big trailer is no problem. I wish I had the 4.30 rear end because I think it would help Mpg and exhaust temperature.
I am chipped and have to use a pyro so as to not blow my motor. I try to keep the exhaust at 1250 or below. Aluminum starts melting at 13??
01-29-2008, 11:07 PM
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01-29-2008, 11:41 PM
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ha!
ok, i'll be the black sheep -- i tow with a 2003 Chevy 2500HD Silverado 4x4, extended cab, 8' bed. engine is a 8.1 liter Vortec gasser, with Allison 5 speed auto tranny. gears are 4.10s. truck tows my Pace enclosed without breaking a sweat (its not huge; its around 10k fully loaded with all my spares, etc). i typically tow at 75-85 mph, mostly longer trips to VIR, CMP, Mid O, WGI, etc. i average about 9.5 towing like that; empty driving around commuting about 11-13 mpg. i have about 49k towing miles on the truck so far; zero defects.
its a great rig to tow with; and i like being able to hop in on a cold day, start it up, and drive away immediately without all the clacking, smoke, and hesitation of a diesel. gas around here is hovering around $2.90 a gal, so its a little less than diesel. and the bargains you can get on a gasser can be huge; the dealer practically gave this one away to us for $26,900, brand new (its totally loaded with all the options, except leather).
the only down side is that its max towing rating is 13k lbs. not as much as most of the diesels nowadays.
todd
01-30-2008, 12:25 AM
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Saw a neat line of Haulmark RV's built on truck chassis at an RV show last week
01-30-2008, 08:40 AM
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I only ask as there are LOTS of Fords around, but Consumer Reports liked the Chevy better and the family likes the Toyota Tundra better. No flames, please!
01-30-2008, 09:44 AM
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01-30-2008, 09:56 AM
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Why go with a F-450 when a F-250 7.3L PSD will tow 15,000#s?
We get 13 MPG towing close to 15,000#s (12,000#, 3 horse slant and three horses)
We get 13 MPG towing close to 15,000#s (12,000#, 3 horse slant and three horses)
01-30-2008, 11:18 AM
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ha!
ok, i'll be the black sheep -- i tow with a 2003 Chevy 2500HD Silverado 4x4, extended cab, 8' bed. engine is a 8.1 liter Vortec gasser, with Allison 5 speed auto tranny. gears are 4.10s. truck tows my Pace enclosed without breaking a sweat (its not huge; its around 10k fully loaded with all my spares, etc). i typically tow at 75-85 mph, mostly longer trips to VIR, CMP, Mid O, WGI, etc. i average about 9.5 towing like that; empty driving around commuting about 11-13 mpg. i have about 49k towing miles on the truck so far; zero defects.
its a great rig to tow with; and i like being able to hop in on a cold day, start it up, and drive away immediately without all the clacking, smoke, and hesitation of a diesel. gas around here is hovering around $2.90 a gal, so its a little less than diesel. and the bargains you can get on a gasser can be huge; the dealer practically gave this one away to us for $26,900, brand new (its totally loaded with all the options, except leather).
the only down side is that its max towing rating is 13k lbs. not as much as most of the diesels nowadays.
todd
ok, i'll be the black sheep -- i tow with a 2003 Chevy 2500HD Silverado 4x4, extended cab, 8' bed. engine is a 8.1 liter Vortec gasser, with Allison 5 speed auto tranny. gears are 4.10s. truck tows my Pace enclosed without breaking a sweat (its not huge; its around 10k fully loaded with all my spares, etc). i typically tow at 75-85 mph, mostly longer trips to VIR, CMP, Mid O, WGI, etc. i average about 9.5 towing like that; empty driving around commuting about 11-13 mpg. i have about 49k towing miles on the truck so far; zero defects.
its a great rig to tow with; and i like being able to hop in on a cold day, start it up, and drive away immediately without all the clacking, smoke, and hesitation of a diesel. gas around here is hovering around $2.90 a gal, so its a little less than diesel. and the bargains you can get on a gasser can be huge; the dealer practically gave this one away to us for $26,900, brand new (its totally loaded with all the options, except leather).
the only down side is that its max towing rating is 13k lbs. not as much as most of the diesels nowadays.
todd
01-30-2008, 11:36 AM
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And as far as the 7.3's go, sure they were great in their day. But where are you going to go down to the 2003 Ford store and pick one up? Best case you'll find a decent one with not too many miles, and at an obscenely high price relative to new. Then there's the tax aspect of new v. used, wives who question buying old stuff, etc etc.
Never said any of this makes sense!
01-30-2008, 08:12 PM
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I have a 1998 Ram 2500 with the Cummins 24V Diesel, I get 18mpg around town and 15 when towing. I do tow a Trailex with a 2800lb car - so not much load. Since the Race car is for sale so is the tow vehicle - the classified is on PCa.org and I will post on rennlist later tonight.
Lou Lipari
1992 968 Firehawk (For Sale)
1998 Dodge 2500 Diesel (For Sale)
and i'll see what else in the garage I can sell (lol)
Lou Lipari
1992 968 Firehawk (For Sale)
1998 Dodge 2500 Diesel (For Sale)
and i'll see what else in the garage I can sell (lol)
01-30-2008, 09:23 PM
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