8-point harnesses?
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If I am not mistaken...
...Sparco is buying belts from Schroth now. I'm not sure it is all of them, but... I also don't know why they haven't updated their website. I haven't looked in a few months, but I gather that it is still showing the old "Sabelt junk."
As for the 8-point Schroth, I don't think I would use them with a HANS unless I had the quick release tethers. In fact, I think EVERY HANS should have them.
The damn things do get caught on stuff!
...Sparco is buying belts from Schroth now. I'm not sure it is all of them, but... I also don't know why they haven't updated their website. I haven't looked in a few months, but I gather that it is still showing the old "Sabelt junk."
As for the 8-point Schroth, I don't think I would use them with a HANS unless I had the quick release tethers. In fact, I think EVERY HANS should have them.
The damn things do get caught on stuff!
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oh so why do I use the dual shoulders? 1) percieved increase in system effectiveness 2) they are more comfortable with hans than a 3" shoulder system without a hans.
Are they worth the trouble? I ask myself that question every time I strap into the car.
Are they worth the trouble? I ask myself that question every time I strap into the car.
#18
Yes please. I have only seen them in tintop.
A bit off topic.
Another interesting thing I learned when talking to Willans rep at PRI. They only recommend the 2/3 belt for a HANS setup where the shoulder belts aren't optimally mounted. He said that if everything is mounted the way HANS recommends that they would use a constant 3 inch belt.
Thought it was interesting that Willans would say that.
A bit off topic.
Another interesting thing I learned when talking to Willans rep at PRI. They only recommend the 2/3 belt for a HANS setup where the shoulder belts aren't optimally mounted. He said that if everything is mounted the way HANS recommends that they would use a constant 3 inch belt.
Thought it was interesting that Willans would say that.
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From: yorba linda, ca
OK, now that I am back from other places, I have finally uploaded an image of an example with respect to the double, over the shoulder bolder holder
Here is one way to mount it:
Here is one way to mount it:
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Thanks. Looks nice. I was wondering what the mount looked like for a open wheel/sports racer. Or is that one of the Pimpy carbon fiber NASCAR seats that Hendrick makes.
However teh spread looks far greater than you want for a HANS device. IIRC the spread between the 2 inner edges of the belts is supposed to be 3 inches.
However teh spread looks far greater than you want for a HANS device. IIRC the spread between the 2 inner edges of the belts is supposed to be 3 inches.
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The spread is determined by how far behind your shoulders the belts mount. In the case of a single seater or a seat like above, the belts mount right at your shoulders...mounting them 3 inches apart would cause the belts to wrap around your neck. In some instances where the belts mount a long ways behind the driver, HANS actually suggests crossing the belts according to the literature that came with my HANS from HMS.
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The spread is determined by how far behind your shoulders the belts mount. In the case of a single seater or a seat like above, the belts mount right at your shoulders...mounting them 3 inches apart would cause the belts to wrap around your neck. In some instances where the belts mount a long ways behind the driver, HANS actually suggests crossing the belts according to the literature that came with my HANS from HMS.
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Here is an article aobut one of those high tech seats getting the bead seat poured.
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/column...vid&id=3161760
You can either cover them with gaffers tape or a bit of fabric, usually nomex.
As Bryan said it's pretty standard to see seats like that in open wheel.
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/column...vid&id=3161760
You can either cover them with gaffers tape or a bit of fabric, usually nomex.
As Bryan said it's pretty standard to see seats like that in open wheel.
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There are VERY FEW tin top cars where the belts can be mounted within 8 inches of the driver's neck. A traditional seat and harness bar setup almost always has more room than that.
Further, the suggestion to mount the belts close together is to help keep the belts on the HANS. The double strap setup would seem to help solve that problem while allowing for a more traditional mounting setup. Perhaps the direction for the double mount are different?
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Further, the suggestion to mount the belts close together is to help keep the belts on the HANS. The double strap setup would seem to help solve that problem while allowing for a more traditional mounting setup. Perhaps the direction for the double mount are different?
As for the belt crossing I know that a number of Skip Barber people have done it since their harness mounts are pretty wide.
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From: yorba linda, ca
This seat is very typical of the open wheel crowd, crude as it looks. Gaffers tape is the interior material of choice simply because drivers are often times having their seat adjusted here and there for max comfort.
Drivers are really really sensitive how the seat fits particularly around their Sciatica nerve near their butt. If a seat doesnt fit properly in this particular area, a drivers legs stand a chance of going to sleep, or numbing. No bueno.
So, this is one reason why gaffers tape is the tuck-n-roll of open wheelers
Drivers are really really sensitive how the seat fits particularly around their Sciatica nerve near their butt. If a seat doesnt fit properly in this particular area, a drivers legs stand a chance of going to sleep, or numbing. No bueno.
So, this is one reason why gaffers tape is the tuck-n-roll of open wheelers