Will the Cayman ever take over the prestige of a 911?
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The Cayman will not supplant the 911 in prestige but it will be seen on the track more and more. Caymans are not collector cars (high production numbers) this will allow the prices fall.
I wouldn't be surprised if, eventually, they create a class for Caymans. Mid-engine has superior handling, manages tires much better than rear engine. Purchase and parts prices should drop to the point many can afford to track them in couple of years. My boxster handled better than any 911 I'ver owned. A track prepped Cayman? Gotta love it.
I wouldn't be surprised if, eventually, they create a class for Caymans. Mid-engine has superior handling, manages tires much better than rear engine. Purchase and parts prices should drop to the point many can afford to track them in couple of years. My boxster handled better than any 911 I'ver owned. A track prepped Cayman? Gotta love it.
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Absolutely... Some of us eventually looking to go club racing would jump at the chance... The Caymen is a great little car, and a very respectable platform to track... In 30 years it may well replace the 911, only time will tell... ![ooops](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/icon501.gif)
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When the Cayman starts eating 911's on the track, it will change people's perception of it. Yes, it will never have the history or the pedigree of the 911, but who knows what will happen over the next 10 years. The "prestige" of the 911 has been greatly enhanced by its results on the track.
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When the Cayman starts eating 911's on the track, it will change people's perception of it. Yes, it will never have the history or the pedigree of the 911, but who knows what will happen over the next 10 years. The "prestige" of the 911 has been greatly enhanced by its results on the track.
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The 914-6 is a phenomenal track car. There is a 928 out there that eats all but the very fastest 911s on the track. Those cars have a perception issue. I doubt there are many people who will disagree that the Cayman is a great track car. It's not a perception reason why it won't be a prestigious car. It's not a 911 and it never will be. That being said, I would love to have one as a DD/DE car.
The Cayman is a little different story. The Boxster/Cayman platform is going to sell a crazy number of units (Boxster already has). Many critics thought the Boxster would never get any prestige and it has (though not the same as the 911). The Cayman platform is the next level and with the addition of an LSD can beat the 911 out of the gate on the track. Slightly different equation.
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I was going down the road of performance handling (914-6) and beating 911s (the 928 of Mark Anderson) does not make perceptions change. I left out the 944 series because they are so heavily raced right now and didn't add to the point. They are going to be what they are going to be. The Cayman will always be one of the other cars that Porsche sold when they were selling 911s.
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It seems there are 2 debates here; prestige and track performance.
It's hard to argue with 40+ years of production and race vistories as far as prestige is concerned.
BUT on trak performance stock for stock the Cayman S is already faster than a C2 and depending on the track can give the C2S a run for it's money. Of course if you're thinking about the GT3 and its varients they are on another level altogether.
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It's hard to argue with 40+ years of production and race vistories as far as prestige is concerned.
BUT on trak performance stock for stock the Cayman S is already faster than a C2 and depending on the track can give the C2S a run for it's money. Of course if you're thinking about the GT3 and its varients they are on another level altogether.
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Well that's just a pile of crap. You effectively took all my posts and made them sound like I'm talking about a completely different topic.
Change the thread title back and then start a new topic.
Change the thread title back and then start a new topic.
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Joe, you are right.....
The title is as it originally started......
What I wanted to know it is about the "feel", the excitement that comes from driving one of these two cars on the track say at 9/10.......
So far the 911 is been more exciting, but then again, it is full set up and way more responsive than my stock Cayman S thus it wouln't be fair to compare......
The title is as it originally started......
What I wanted to know it is about the "feel", the excitement that comes from driving one of these two cars on the track say at 9/10.......
So far the 911 is been more exciting, but then again, it is full set up and way more responsive than my stock Cayman S thus it wouln't be fair to compare......
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The point we were debating is the impact that track performance/motorsports success has on the "prestige" of a porsche model. The 911 would not have the "prestige" that it has now if it were not for its motorsports success.
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Boston-- 2 entirely different cars. 87 is a raw car compared to the refined Cayman. Part of that is the 20 years of development/refinement part of that is the fact that your car is fully prepared.
Sure the 911 has prestige from it's motorsports success. It's the only production car that Porsche has truly supported in racing. The Cayman will always be an also ran. Not because of it's performance capabilities but for the fact that the 911 will continue to dominate the racing scene of Porshces by sheer numbers.
Sure the 911 has prestige from it's motorsports success. It's the only production car that Porsche has truly supported in racing. The Cayman will always be an also ran. Not because of it's performance capabilities but for the fact that the 911 will continue to dominate the racing scene of Porshces by sheer numbers.
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Boston-- 2 entirely different cars. 87 is a raw car compared to the refined Cayman. Part of that is the 20 years of development/refinement part of that is the fact that your car is fully prepared.
Sure the 911 has prestige from it's motorsports success. It's the only production car that Porsche has truly supported in racing. The Cayman will always be an also ran. Not because of it's performance capabilities but for the fact that the 911 will continue to dominate the racing scene of Porshces by sheer numbers.
Sure the 911 has prestige from it's motorsports success. It's the only production car that Porsche has truly supported in racing. The Cayman will always be an also ran. Not because of it's performance capabilities but for the fact that the 911 will continue to dominate the racing scene of Porshces by sheer numbers.
The Cayman will end up like the 944. A competent car with a loyal following but still the king of the block is the 911. The high production numbers and low entry cost will likely make sure that there are a TON of them out there in coming years.