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Old 09-10-2007, 01:18 PM
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is that avatar really you ?
Old 09-10-2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyT
is that avatar really you ?
Lol, yeah - it's a joke pose. At another forum, we had this thing going about making fun of NJ Guidos, and one in particular who is all over the web - Joey Carrera. The puckered lips, wife-beater, jewels, and Grey Goose are all part of the guido pose, lol. You can see why I need head protection. The 'slade is my tow vehicle, and provided the perfect backdrop to a guido pose. I'll be changing it as soon as I pickup my Boxster track car - the one talked about in the previous thread that Randy Pobst drove.
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Originally Posted by schvetkaaks
I saw that video of the aluminum head restraint that just popped off, and it was scary to be sure, but I would think that a seat that has the head restraints integrated into the frame would work, as it would require the tubular steel frame to really give way completely, and that seems unlikely given the head does not weigh that much, and that at least some of the movement is restricted by the H/N device and shoulder blades, no?
The video I saw had a C/F or poly seat that broke off. I just received my add-on section from Kirkey and it's pretty darn strong looking as-is and i'm going to reinforce it...

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Old 09-10-2007, 10:43 PM
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Looks pretty stout. Good quality TIG welding too (as well as one can tell from the picture.

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Old 09-10-2007, 11:21 PM
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Gary,

Where will your head/helmet be positioned vertically relative to this particular lateral head restraint section?

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Despite the evidence of aluminum lateral head restraints bending, they are useful as this will attenuate or control the deceleration of your mellon. ...And yes, your head does become really really heavy upon impact.

Before HANS in open wheel racing, it was common to see bent steering wheels from helmet impacts, and this is in cars where the driver lays down in the monocoque. Yikes!!
Old 09-11-2007, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike S.
Gary,

Where will your head/helmet be positioned vertically relative to this particular lateral head restraint section?

Mike
Haven't looked at it yet Mike but I would say my eye level will be just below the bottom of the upper rubber mount with the restraint mounted as low as possible to still allow me good peripheral vision. That should cover just about any sideways range of motion IMO... ideas always welcome though.
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Originally Posted by schvetkaaks
Lol, yeah - it's a joke pose. At another forum, we had this thing going about making fun of NJ Guidos, and one in particular who is all over the web - Joey Carrera. The puckered lips, wife-beater, jewels, and Grey Goose are all part of the guido pose, lol. You can see why I need head protection. The 'slade is my tow vehicle, and provided the perfect backdrop to a guido pose. I'll be changing it as soon as I pickup my Boxster track car - the one talked about in the previous thread that Randy Pobst drove.
Just as an aside;
don't change the avatar that's classic...very funny!
Old 09-11-2007, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tchandler
Just as an aside;
don't change the avatar that's classic...very funny!
I won't change mine if you don't change yours!
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^ I'll vote for that.
Old 09-12-2007, 02:39 PM
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The answer to the question is...

Yes, Halos are a legit safety item, in theory. In practice they are a bit problematic, but they do offer advantages. I also feel there is a point of diminshing return regarding their size. They need to offer fairly substantial surface area to be effective in the widest variety of incidents. The Sparco seat pictured (or like other brands) does not fit that description in my opinion. The Kirkey component halo is the real item.

The problem is getting a "real" halo in the car. Good luck with that.
Old 09-12-2007, 03:49 PM
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Good points, John.
Old 09-12-2007, 11:41 PM
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Strapped in with only a Hans (& regular GT3 seats) worked for me in a side impact crash where I did a four wheel drift into a barrier. Major damage to the side of the car, but no pain to me. Maybe in a two or more car crash the result would be different?



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