A compound question?
#1
A compound question?
What is the ideal compliment of tools (and brand) necessary for light work on a modern day Porsche? (I know tool junkies want one of everything). Second, who makes the best hand tools? E.G. S-K, Stahle Willie, Klein, Snap-On etc?. And third, where is the best place to buy them? Warning if you know some of the names above, you are a tool junkie!
I knew I never should have bought a torque wrench (Snap-On), 'tis a slippery slope
I knew I never should have bought a torque wrench (Snap-On), 'tis a slippery slope
Last edited by PogueMoHone; 03-13-2007 at 11:15 PM.
#2
You'll want:
combination wrenches size 6-22mm, 27, 28, 30, 32, 36mm
1/4, 3/8, 1/2" socket wrench
1/4, 3/8, 1/2" socket extensions in various lengths
1/4" drive socket deep 5-13mm
3/8" drive socket shallow and deep 10-19mm
1/2" drive socket deep 13-27mm, 30, 32mm
3/8" drive socket short allen set 3-10mm
3/8" torque wrench
1/2" torque wrench
screw drivers
pliers
misc Porsche speciality tools specific to your model
hammer
adjustable wrench (crescent wrench)
I've probably missed some, but the above is a good start.
S&K are nice reasonably priced tools. Sears works great for ease of replacement. I use only Snap-on torque wrenches except for the 3/4" for centerlock wheels which I like the S&K better.
combination wrenches size 6-22mm, 27, 28, 30, 32, 36mm
1/4, 3/8, 1/2" socket wrench
1/4, 3/8, 1/2" socket extensions in various lengths
1/4" drive socket deep 5-13mm
3/8" drive socket shallow and deep 10-19mm
1/2" drive socket deep 13-27mm, 30, 32mm
3/8" drive socket short allen set 3-10mm
3/8" torque wrench
1/2" torque wrench
screw drivers
pliers
misc Porsche speciality tools specific to your model
hammer
adjustable wrench (crescent wrench)
I've probably missed some, but the above is a good start.
S&K are nice reasonably priced tools. Sears works great for ease of replacement. I use only Snap-on torque wrenches except for the 3/4" for centerlock wheels which I like the S&K better.
Last edited by Geoffrey; 03-14-2007 at 09:20 AM.
#3
Geoffrey,
That is exactly the type of info I was looking for (I know I am in trouble). Is it best to buy one of the S&K Master sets? (Which one)
What about Torx sets? Jacks (lightweight), stands and brake bleeder kit?
What has this to do with racing? Well, when you gotta go...you gotta go!
That is exactly the type of info I was looking for (I know I am in trouble). Is it best to buy one of the S&K Master sets? (Which one)
What about Torx sets? Jacks (lightweight), stands and brake bleeder kit?
What has this to do with racing? Well, when you gotta go...you gotta go!
#5
Originally Posted by Colm
...... (I know tool junkies want one of everything). ............
#6
Colm, a torx set is a good idea (I've only used a 13mm for seat removal) and a small one for the BBS center covers. Harbour Freight has a great light-weight aluminum jack that will fit under a GT3 and probably an RS too...
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40105
it was a pleasure to meet you at Laguna Seca Sunday and hope to run into you again soon....
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40105
it was a pleasure to meet you at Laguna Seca Sunday and hope to run into you again soon....
#7
For sockets, I go cheap with Crapsman. Torx sockets are weak by design, I've Snap-On for them. Hex sockets are weak by design as well, and I also have Snap-on for them.
A 1/2" and 3/8" torque wrenches. 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" converters.
I've used every single size from 5mm to 24mm sockets on my GT3 so far. The sockets with big numbers to identify them are helpful.
The locking flex ratcheting wrenches are a must, once you use them, you can't live without them. Get 8mm to 18mm at least.
Big Red rolling bench, Big Red rolling bed, Cordless Impact Wrench, Two aluminum floor jack, 4 jack stands, long and short flat and phillips screwdrivers, pliers, Color Matching heavy duty duct tape.
Beyond this, I think it becomes eccentricity, but that's the idea.
A 1/2" and 3/8" torque wrenches. 1/4", 3/8", 1/2" converters.
I've used every single size from 5mm to 24mm sockets on my GT3 so far. The sockets with big numbers to identify them are helpful.
The locking flex ratcheting wrenches are a must, once you use them, you can't live without them. Get 8mm to 18mm at least.
Big Red rolling bench, Big Red rolling bed, Cordless Impact Wrench, Two aluminum floor jack, 4 jack stands, long and short flat and phillips screwdrivers, pliers, Color Matching heavy duty duct tape.
Beyond this, I think it becomes eccentricity, but that's the idea.
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Pretty good list so far. I am surprised nobody has said "Facom" or "Hazet" for tools The former favord by F1 teams and the latter used by PAG in the factory. Snap-on, SK and Sears also ok in that order. Cost-benefit favors Craftsman but there is a simple pleasure in using a really good tool.
To the various ratchets and sockets above I would add pliers, a large needle nose and a medium sized flat nose. An extra large flat screwdriver, not for screws but for prying, etc.
Philips head screwdrivers, you need nine of them, three bit sizes and three different lengths. Hex drivers, 3/8 drive 2-10 mm. Vise-grips and a good channel lock (large) the latter are useful for holding things in place while you fight with the exhaust and such.
Don't forget band-aids, disinfectant, hand cleaner and a good pair of mechanics gloves.A flat file for chamfering pad edges and a spreader to make installing new pads easier.
While in the Snap-on section, their infrared pyrometer is nice for tire and track temps etc. I fully endorse the battery powered impact driver. Snap-on has a nice one but the DeWalt will do at a fraction of the price.
Colm, you are indeed on a slippery slope. Before you know it, you'll want a bench/storage system for the garage!
Best,
To the various ratchets and sockets above I would add pliers, a large needle nose and a medium sized flat nose. An extra large flat screwdriver, not for screws but for prying, etc.
Philips head screwdrivers, you need nine of them, three bit sizes and three different lengths. Hex drivers, 3/8 drive 2-10 mm. Vise-grips and a good channel lock (large) the latter are useful for holding things in place while you fight with the exhaust and such.
Don't forget band-aids, disinfectant, hand cleaner and a good pair of mechanics gloves.A flat file for chamfering pad edges and a spreader to make installing new pads easier.
While in the Snap-on section, their infrared pyrometer is nice for tire and track temps etc. I fully endorse the battery powered impact driver. Snap-on has a nice one but the DeWalt will do at a fraction of the price.
Colm, you are indeed on a slippery slope. Before you know it, you'll want a bench/storage system for the garage!
Best,
#9
Originally Posted by GT3 Nut
Only ONE? Real tool junkies have 2 of everything and 3 - 4 of some things. I am slipping down that slope as well.
And don't get me started on woodworking tools.
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2016 Ford Transit Connect Titanium LWB
2018 Tesla Model 3 - Electricity can be fun!
Retired Club Racer & National PCA Instructor
Past Flames:
1994 RS America Club Racer
2004 GT3 Track Car
1984 911 Carrera Club Racer
1974 914/4 2.0 Track Car
CLICK HERE to see some of my ancient racing videos.
#10
Vice grips or clamp for the brake fluid overflow tube when bleeding brakes (does a 944 have this?). Big ole plastic handle wrench or piece of wood for pushing caliper pistons back in when changing pads. Long handle magnet for picking up various bolts and washers dropped in the engine. I've found a mirror on a long handle very useful as well. I also find a fender cover useful, especially when draining the brake fluid overflow reservoir with a turkey baster.
#11
Also a set of 6-19 impact swivel sockets - mandatory.
"thin" open end wrench - 13/15/17/18/19/27/32 - needed for 944 Tbelts and all 996/997 suspension (to counter the pinch bolts at the base of the strut)
2 ft 3/8 extension - sometimes it has to be LONG ;-)
Long (2-3 inch) 5-10 allen sockets - know you need them for removing the cam tower on a 944
Triple square/cheese head sockets - 4-10 or so.
inch/pound TQ wrench (for oil pan bolts)
Serious battery powered impact wrench (18 volts)
Assortment of metric flare wrenchs (brake lines)
Stubby 5-19mm wrenchs - saves you from cutting a nice long snap-on in two (HF has them)
Angle Grinder (harbor freight)
Unibit drill bits (HF/Costco - these are disposable)
"thin" open end wrench - 13/15/17/18/19/27/32 - needed for 944 Tbelts and all 996/997 suspension (to counter the pinch bolts at the base of the strut)
2 ft 3/8 extension - sometimes it has to be LONG ;-)
Long (2-3 inch) 5-10 allen sockets - know you need them for removing the cam tower on a 944
Triple square/cheese head sockets - 4-10 or so.
inch/pound TQ wrench (for oil pan bolts)
Serious battery powered impact wrench (18 volts)
Assortment of metric flare wrenchs (brake lines)
Stubby 5-19mm wrenchs - saves you from cutting a nice long snap-on in two (HF has them)
Angle Grinder (harbor freight)
Unibit drill bits (HF/Costco - these are disposable)
#14
Originally Posted by NJ-GT
a.k.a. creepers
Steve
#15
My friend bought a fellow Rennlisters 993 turbo and the previous owner had put his together:
Jeff's Blog
January 13, 2002
Recommended 993 toolkit
Here are the parts that I believe should be in the 993 toolkit.
I had the misfortune of my car breaking an alternator belt at the
track and finding that my toolkit was missing tools.
And of the tools that remained, they were bascially crap. For
example, the wrenches were of such inferior quality, they started
flexing after the slightest bit of pressure was applied.
During the time that I replaced my alternator belt "in the field",
I was fortuante to be with somebody with good tools. Even then, we had
to apply significant muscle to many of the bolts. There is absolutely
no possible way that I could have completed my repairs using only the 993
toolkit. Using the included 993 toolkit to service your car could be
hazardous to your personal safety.
Here are a list of things that I believe allow you to make simple roadside
repairs. This is based on my experience of replacing the alternator belt and
changing tires. I'll add to this list as my experience grows.
The items in the above picture are:
8 mm combination wrench
10 mm combination wrench
13 mm combination wrench
17 mm combination wrench
Note: All the above wrenches are commonly available as a set.
24 mm combination wrench
Used to loosen the alternator nut if you are changing your alternator/fan belts.
Note: This wrench is not usually part of a set and should be bought seperately.
Folding Hex Key Set. This piece is not required, but there are a lot of hex bolts and this may come in handy.
6 mm 3/8" drive bit socket
Used to remove the 3 intercooler bolts from the engine.
5 mm 3/8" drive bit socket
Used to remove the 3 bolts from the fan belt pulley.
Note: The above two items are also available as part of a set here.
Oops, jumped a number in my picture above.
3" 3/8 drive extension
3/8" drive ratchet
1/2" drive 19 MM 6 point ratchet head
Used to remove the wheel lug nuts
1/2" drive 17 MM 6 point ratchet head
Note: The picture shows a 12 point socket, but purchase the 6 point socket instead. It is stronger.
1/2" drive 6" extension
1/2" drive flex handle
Note: The picture above is a 1/2" drive ratchet. Either the flex handle or ratchet is fine.
Tow hook, part of the standard 993 toolkit
Unknown 8 mm tool, part of the standard 993 toolkit
Unknown tool with 5 mm hex on one end, part of the standard 993 toolkit
Universal jointed spark plug tool, part of the standard 993 toolkit
Right angle screwdriver tool, part of the standard 993 toolkit
12 point allen head, Porsche Part #999 571 052 02. [Pic]
Note: This tool is commonly missing from the 993 toolkits and is absolutely necessary to change the alternator belt.
If you want to find out Robin's order with a stripped alternator shaft, look here.
4 in 1 screwdriver. Get a decent one from any hardware shop.
Magnetic pickup tool. This is optional, but definately comes in handy.
A decent pair of pliers.
In addition to those tools, I would also recommend the following:
DME relay update used to fix intermittent starting problems. Porsche Part # 993.615.227.00
Not all relays are defective. Here is more information here
Extra fuses, 30 A, 25 A, and 15 A blade type fuses.
Alternator belt, Porsche Part # 999 192 372 50. 9.5 mm X 757 mm
Note: This is for 993 TT with the alternator pulley update applied. Normally aspirated may be different, please check your owner's manual.
Fan belt, Porsche Part # 999 192 343 50. 9.5 mm X 760 mm
Note: This is for a 993 TT, normally aspirated models may be different, please check your owner's manual.
AC belt, Porsche Part # 999 192 363 50. 13 mm X 1085 mm
Note: This is for a 993 TT, normally aspirated models may be different, please check your owner's manual.
When I prepare for long drives and track days, I take all of these tools with me just in case I
cannot get help in other ways. However, in everyday driving, I take a reduced set of tools, namely my AAA card.
Jeff
Email me
Jeff's Blog
January 13, 2002
Recommended 993 toolkit
Here are the parts that I believe should be in the 993 toolkit.
I had the misfortune of my car breaking an alternator belt at the
track and finding that my toolkit was missing tools.
And of the tools that remained, they were bascially crap. For
example, the wrenches were of such inferior quality, they started
flexing after the slightest bit of pressure was applied.
During the time that I replaced my alternator belt "in the field",
I was fortuante to be with somebody with good tools. Even then, we had
to apply significant muscle to many of the bolts. There is absolutely
no possible way that I could have completed my repairs using only the 993
toolkit. Using the included 993 toolkit to service your car could be
hazardous to your personal safety.
Here are a list of things that I believe allow you to make simple roadside
repairs. This is based on my experience of replacing the alternator belt and
changing tires. I'll add to this list as my experience grows.
The items in the above picture are:
8 mm combination wrench
10 mm combination wrench
13 mm combination wrench
17 mm combination wrench
Note: All the above wrenches are commonly available as a set.
24 mm combination wrench
Used to loosen the alternator nut if you are changing your alternator/fan belts.
Note: This wrench is not usually part of a set and should be bought seperately.
Folding Hex Key Set. This piece is not required, but there are a lot of hex bolts and this may come in handy.
6 mm 3/8" drive bit socket
Used to remove the 3 intercooler bolts from the engine.
5 mm 3/8" drive bit socket
Used to remove the 3 bolts from the fan belt pulley.
Note: The above two items are also available as part of a set here.
Oops, jumped a number in my picture above.
3" 3/8 drive extension
3/8" drive ratchet
1/2" drive 19 MM 6 point ratchet head
Used to remove the wheel lug nuts
1/2" drive 17 MM 6 point ratchet head
Note: The picture shows a 12 point socket, but purchase the 6 point socket instead. It is stronger.
1/2" drive 6" extension
1/2" drive flex handle
Note: The picture above is a 1/2" drive ratchet. Either the flex handle or ratchet is fine.
Tow hook, part of the standard 993 toolkit
Unknown 8 mm tool, part of the standard 993 toolkit
Unknown tool with 5 mm hex on one end, part of the standard 993 toolkit
Universal jointed spark plug tool, part of the standard 993 toolkit
Right angle screwdriver tool, part of the standard 993 toolkit
12 point allen head, Porsche Part #999 571 052 02. [Pic]
Note: This tool is commonly missing from the 993 toolkits and is absolutely necessary to change the alternator belt.
If you want to find out Robin's order with a stripped alternator shaft, look here.
4 in 1 screwdriver. Get a decent one from any hardware shop.
Magnetic pickup tool. This is optional, but definately comes in handy.
A decent pair of pliers.
In addition to those tools, I would also recommend the following:
DME relay update used to fix intermittent starting problems. Porsche Part # 993.615.227.00
Not all relays are defective. Here is more information here
Extra fuses, 30 A, 25 A, and 15 A blade type fuses.
Alternator belt, Porsche Part # 999 192 372 50. 9.5 mm X 757 mm
Note: This is for 993 TT with the alternator pulley update applied. Normally aspirated may be different, please check your owner's manual.
Fan belt, Porsche Part # 999 192 343 50. 9.5 mm X 760 mm
Note: This is for a 993 TT, normally aspirated models may be different, please check your owner's manual.
AC belt, Porsche Part # 999 192 363 50. 13 mm X 1085 mm
Note: This is for a 993 TT, normally aspirated models may be different, please check your owner's manual.
When I prepare for long drives and track days, I take all of these tools with me just in case I
cannot get help in other ways. However, in everyday driving, I take a reduced set of tools, namely my AAA card.
Jeff
Email me