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Old 02-10-2007, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
Back in who's day? When I started autocrossing, we had to make our own tires!


Actually the hot tire was the Semperit M401, but the rich guys ran the Michelin XWXs.
Goodyear Blue Dots and Blue Streaks "in the day".....!!!

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The Phoenix Stahlflex 3011 is the great autocross tire I remember- had some on my Elan, but then bought some close-out Goodyear slicks for $20 from a classified ad in the back of Autoweek, and boy, did those grip!
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Wow, that is such an awesome picture!

Don't think he'd pass the broomstick test, though...
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Originally Posted by centerpunch
The Phoenix Stahlflex 3011 is the great autocross tire I remember- had some on my Elan, but then bought some close-out Goodyear slicks for $20 from a classified ad in the back of Autoweek, and boy, did those grip!
WooHoo! That was the tire to get in the late 70s I think. The Semperits preceded them. There was also a pretty good Pirelli at the time, but I can't remember the name. BTW that is a great shot.
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
BTW that is a great shot.
That was the smallest car I autocrossed. Here's the biggest. (Also took this thing to a few DE's!)
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SWEET !!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
There was also a pretty good Pirelli at the time, but I can't remember the name.
You probably mean the CN36.
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Originally Posted by George A
Based on my experience, UTQG is a meaningless number, especially for R compounds.

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Originally Posted by centerpunch
That was the smallest car I autocrossed. Here's the biggest. (Also took this thing to a few DE's!)
Fark me!

We used to train in those old Caprice Classics as well as Suburbans, Sedan DUH Villes, Town Cars, and Crown Vics/Grand Marquis. They will do surprisingly agile things, providing they were equipped with the HD suspension & big rear sway bar (like the one in the photo).
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Originally Posted by centerpunch
You probably mean the CN36.
YEAH! That was them. I stuffed them under the fenders of my Spitfire. 185/70x15s. Huge! Won my autocross class that year.
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Fark me!

We used to train in those old Caprice Classics as well as Suburbans, Sedan DUH Villes, Town Cars, and Crown Vics/Grand Marquis. They will do surprisingly agile things, providing they were equipped with the HD suspension & big rear sway bar (like the one in the photo).
I once took my '77 Dodge Van through a course that some weenies deemed undriveable!
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Originally Posted by Veloce Raptor
Fark me!

We used to train in those old Caprice Classics as well as Suburbans, Sedan DUH Villes, Town Cars, and Crown Vics/Grand Marquis. They will do surprisingly agile things, providing they were equipped with the HD suspension & big rear sway bar (like the one in the photo).
This one was a 1979 9C1 (cop car) Impala we bought new. It was dead stock (135 hp, I think), but with 8" wheels, huge 265-60 (?) Wingfoots, and Gabriel Silver E shocks.

It was amazing- at the SCCA divisional (many many many years ago) I finished 3rd out of 18 in F/Stock, beating 15 Mustang GTs, Z-28s, and Trans-Ams.

It had a bench front seat, and at a few events I took 5 helmeted passengers with me!
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Cool beans. IIRC, the law enforcement package Impalas/Caprices we used (circa 1983-1985, before they changed to the whale body style) held a whopping 205hp 350 V8. The P71 package Crown Vics back then had 200, now they have 240, IIRC. The limos we used had special motors in them that were detuned NASCAR engines, but then again they had to haul around 10,000 pounds of armor and still be able to lay rubber.

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Apparently mine was actually 170hp, according to a Googled source.
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Originally Posted by centerpunch
Apparently mine was actually 170hp, according to a Googled source.
Sweet.



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