Thanks for the info. I will be at VIR next weekenx instructing for Viper Days, then again at VIR in September.

VIR is my "home track" and I feel most comfortable there pushing the car. The Glen is another story. I would love to see what a pro driver could do with my car at the Glen.

I'll try to post some video of my 2:10.50 lap. Maybe I was off but I think this is accurate.

 

Hi Chris.. I see a GT3S on your car which can mean a lot of things.. can you describe your car?

 

Chris, that's a pretty impressive time and I think much faster than the previous owner of your car. It's good to see that the car is finally being driven with some anger I know I was happy to turn a 2:17 in my F car. Are you doing the VIR Club Race?

-Manny Alban
'90 911C2 #53 F, der wunderbread car

 

Jim / Manny:

I purchased this car just about as it is from Mr. Tom Bobbit in Williamsburg, VA. I have owned it for only about 5 months and so far logged about 12 track days. The car is great fun and if anyone ever has a chance to buy a car from Tom Bobbit, jump on it. This car was very well prepared and the setup documentation which came along was impressive.

I think Tom is headed for President of PCA NA and PCA will be well served.

The car is a bone stock 1970 911T. Just kidding - at least about the bone stock part. This is a GT3 class car, 3.3L engine, 915 trans, 2100 lbs, 320 - 330 HP. No coilovers but well set up traditional suspension.

Manny - I am not sure if I am faster than Tom or not. If I am, I am sure its because he knew how damn hard he worked to produce the car, and did not want to ball it up!! All joking aside, I usually run Pirelly slicks and Tom usually ran Kuhmos, which would account for 4-5 secs a lap.

But, yes, I do drive the car with some "anger", especially when I have to give a point by to another GT3 or 4 car!

I wish I were running at the VIR club race. I consider this my home track and the car right now with me driving should be good for a high 2:06 or low 2:07 in "S" class or maybe the 2:05's in "R". I am curious what the GT3S pole will be - I fear close to 2:02, maybe 2:01. However if the pole is closer to 2:04 then I'll try next year. I think with another year at VIR, I can have the car in the high 2:04 range.

Stop laughing EJ and Karl - you'll see. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

See you all soon.

 

Great car, used to be a fixture in these parts when Tom was with CVR. He called it Big Blue.

 

Hi guys. Drove watkins glen in june (with Metro) for the first time. I've got to admit I felt lost out there. I got sideways in the off-camber left hand turn during my first run on day-1, but did much better the second day. i found that I was pretty quick through the "bus stop". Where are the esses that you're referring to?

Also, it there a decent video of driving the glen that I can buy which will help me to visualize the course before my next trip up there in august? were any of you at Lime ROck this thursday and/or friday?

thanks.

richard
'87 carrera-3.6L

 

Esses follow turn 2 up the hill.

 

Richard: there is a video from the "Tracks of the Northeast" series that may be what you're looking for. It was done by Keith Peare racing in a 914. It's about 30 minutes of just lapping -- no narrative to go along with it, but it's a good tool for visualizing the track. You should be able to order it by calling 877-377-0022, and it costs $30 plus shipping/handling. I picked up a copy at the Driving Impressions store at Summit Point, and I think they also run the store at Lime Rock if that's more convenient for you.

 

Driving Impressions - <a href="http://www.teamdi.com" target="_blank">www.teamdi.com</a>

 

Alan:
It was musical cars at WG. I couldn't say no to the offer to drive my dad's car, especially with the new suspension. Oh, would I love to race it. Caren drove the 51 car a few times.

 

Chris,

No doubt ole blue is a great track car but... Seems to me I remember the same impressive driving in a stock black 996. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

 

[quote]Originally posted by bill walczak:
<strong>Chris,

No doubt ole blue is a great track car but... Seems to me I remember the same impressive driving in a stock black 996. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>


Thanks.... All I can say about the 996 is that it served me well. I think it was happier on the track than on the street.

Chris

 

Just got my confirmation for Watkins Glen DE in August (16-18) with NNJR last Friday. It will be my first time at The Glen, and I really look forward to it, especially after all this posts about what it's like!
I've done DE's at Lime Rock, and feel comfortable there, even on the uphill turn. I understand that The Glen is twice as long as Lime Rock, and twice as fun! I wonder what hopes/dreams/fears The Glen will bring to me? Hopefully the post about the accident will help to tame my adrenaline rush and keep me outta trouble. (I'm still a newbie running in Yellow) With a 944S2, hopefully I won't have all that power you forced induction boys have!

[shameless plug] I service my car at Keith Peare's shop: Powertech in Rockaway, NJ. Great bunch of guys, and they do know their cars, especially in track setups. [/shameless plug]

I friend of mine in PCA NNJR (thanks Mark!) gave me a tape of some of his laps at The Glen to help me visualize the track. Unfortunately, incar videos show you the turns, but show very little about the elevation changes and banking of the turns. But its a start.

Anyone else going to The Glen DE Aug 16-18? Hope to see some Rennlisters there! Look me up! Red 944S2, #142

Also: any pointers for a first timer at The Glen?
-Zoltan.

 

[quote]<strong>any pointers for a first timer at The Glen? </strong><hr></blockquote>

Go to <a href="http://www.cvrpca.org/n_cvrdetracks.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cvrpca.org/n_cvrdetracks.htm</a> and look at the drivers manual supplement for Watkins Glen. The discussion about each corner will help you understand what you're seeing on the tapes.

 

[quote]Originally posted by Z-man:
<strong>Anyone else going to The Glen DE Aug 16-18? Hope to see some Rennlisters there! Look me up! Red 944S2, #142

Also: any pointers for a first timer at The Glen?
-Zoltan.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Zoltan, I'll be there in a Silver 996 #258 running in Black. I'm sure your instructor will have lots of useful tips for specific parts of the track but the one main rule of Watkins Glen is to never, never, never early apex. It has a lot of very fast corners with blind apexes and drivers who have not been there before have a tendency to turn in early. There are a number of corners (including the one where the accident happened) that will bite you very hard if you early apex them at speed.

Take your time and learn the line before you try to increase speed. And remember, when in doubt, late apex it

Karl