Neil

Hello and happy new year,

I am over in the UK and have recently aquired the Red Alex Job RSR. They are very rare and special cars indeed. My car is now virtually showroom condition with the correct wing and arch extensions, maybe we should all go to Rennsport Reunion 2007!!!

Neil

Hi All,

For general information the 'Real Cup 3.8 RSR's were not built on GT2 shells and some were delivered narrow without wing extensions. The correct spoilers are the same as the Euro RS Clubsport as they were only 375 HP max and did'nt require the same aids as a 993 GT2R.

jmreiser

Re: the comment "Also, is it just the angle of the shot, but the front end seems real low and the rear high. Am I mistaken?"

That was normal for the fully developed 993's. We all ran really tall rear tires. A "normal" rear tire would be around 25" tall, or 635 to 645mm. The way we ran these cars back in the day (and some of us still do) the rears are anywhere from 690 to 710mm tall. Goodyear calls that a 28.0" tire.

BTW, who built the engine & gearbox? Is this the one Geoffrey Ring dyno'd?

jmreiser

The "correct" bodywork for this car was made by Patritti, he did them for Alex Job, and for my team as well back in the day. It was non-factory. These cars were about as wide as a GT2, and had all sorts of additional downforce. This allowed 10.5" front and 13" rear wheels. Factory was 9" & 11" the way my 1998 RSR was delivered with small flares and the small rear wing. Since the cars raced and the Job cars won that way, that would seem to be more authentic to me (to have the Patritti bodywork rather than factory). Though AJR ran the "other" wing whenever possible. They used the 3.8RS wing base, while the one in the photo has a GT2 wing base like my team cars did.

Chris O'Donnell

Neil, I am not farmiliar with the red AJR RSR. What is the chasis #. What is the racing history?
Chris

Greg Fishman

There is a PCA racer in Michigan that has one just like this. Supposed to be one of the last ones delivered by Porsche.

Geoffrey

Chris Cervelli also has a factory RSR in factory bodywork format.

Neil

Hi Chris,

The red RSR is featured in Porschesport 98 and is on pages 116,120 and at the back within the results pages. The car was delivered new to Alex Job Racing for the driver Angelo Cilli and ran twice at Daytona as well as Sebring and 3-4 other IMSA events. I wont post numbers I am afraid but if you want me to fax the factory nomenclature direct from the Cup 3.8 RSR manual then let me know. This car is matching numbers with correct gearbox and engine type as well as all original bodywork as in factory photos, the car may well be the one in the factory promo pictures. It was never a big winner but lets not forget that the GT3 was on the way and took over from them.

Premier Motorsp

Neil,

I raced against that red Cilli car in 1997 in IMSA. It was red with yellow flares and rocker panels at that time. In 1997 the RSRs had not gotten crazy yet so your car is probably pretty original.

The red Cilli car predated the the Aerofab/Darryl Havens cars by a year or so. All the major development took place in 1998 when the RSRs got enough rules concessions to be able to compete with the M3s.

Chris Cervelli
Premier Motorsports

Neil

Hi Chris,

I found more pics of the car in Porsche Sport 97 I think my car did Daytona twice and Sebring 12 in 1997.

tar6day

Is there someplace I could buy the videos of the 1998-2000 IMSA races and 1999-2000 Grand Am races these cars raced in?

jmreiser

I would be curious what IMSA or GrandAm might say if you asked them. Neither had cameras or video, but should have the contacts within ESPN or SpeedChannel to follow it up.

I know in the day it was tough to get much TV coverage in GT/GT3, as almost all the media focus was usually on the prototypes. So I would not pay too much for video of a multi-hour race where you might be lucky to see a given GT car for a few seconds here & there, and if it wasn't in the top 3 in class, it may not even appear at all unless you see it from a wide-angle shot sitting on the grid. In ALMS that didn't work because the cars had huge national flags draped over them on the grid, for the nationality of the team (?).

Note that GrandAm did not exist in 1999, it was called USRRC for a few years. USRRC only held 2 races (Daytona and MidOhio) that year, then collapsed as ALMS took over ProSportsCar. The scheduled last USRRC race of the season at the Glen ended up being an FIA event. The Nascar people took over what was left of USRRC and formed GrandAm.

This is partly why Upietz' Porsche Sport is such a boon for this sort of thing. You can really see which Porsches participated in those events, and get a good look at them.

bjohnson38

Does anyone have a phone number for Patritti?? I'm looking to put a 993 wide body conversion on my car. Thanks

jmreiser

I can't find it... and I may be wrong on the spelling. Could be Pattriti or Patritti. His name is Patrick Nguyen. Last I knew he was in FL or Atlanta area maybe. I saw him at the IMSA Michelin Cup race last year at Mid Ohio. I think he gave me a card, but I can't find it, not yet anyway. If anyone else comes up with it, I'd like it too.

Greg A

Hi Joel,

It is Patritti. The site used to be Patritti but it no longer works. However, this is probably Patrick's phone number: 770.856.7355.

Greg A