Professional Racing versus Club Racing – open discussion
11-15-2006, 01:36 PM
#61
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Originally Posted by mitch236
Since someone brought it up, the same conclusions should be made with DE. If you take your car to the track and some bone-head scratches your nice shiny car, don't expect them to offer to pay. They might, but don't expect it.
Meh...if they do that, I will just have them whacked:
11-16-2006, 12:07 AM
#62
The SCCA regionals around where I live are full of wrecks. That is why we camp there, year after year....otherwise, we'd stay home....And Nationals on TV and old videos; wreckfests, often. Not sure how you can say less wrecks in SCCA then PCA.
Although I support the 13/13 rule, there are two issues that are kind of a bummer:
1. It does create some bullying behavior against "marks," because a person can "scare" the other driver away from contact, thereby the bonehead driver makes a bad move and gets away with it.
2. The "hittee" in minor incidents (usually w/damage to the rear bumper) has to quit the race, too.
But I can live with that because I do think the fact that after an incident in PCA you have to talk to the steward at least puts in some self-reflection and learning.
My car was half-destroyed, in another group, under a yellow flag when a driver froze when coming upon an incident. I would never expect $$, but there was no talk to this guy, no nothing from organizers except pity for HIS car, no concern for another person's health, either, by the "hitter." This driver will never be aware of what he did wrong nor learn.
The car that originally caused the situation also repeatedly had the same mechanical breakdown over and over with no repurcussions. In contrast, these are the type of situations PCA does address very well.
The major difference between club and pro has to be that we are "comrades" and while you want to win, you also would not want to jeopardize or cheat against your friend, hopefully.
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Although I support the 13/13 rule, there are two issues that are kind of a bummer:
1. It does create some bullying behavior against "marks," because a person can "scare" the other driver away from contact, thereby the bonehead driver makes a bad move and gets away with it.
2. The "hittee" in minor incidents (usually w/damage to the rear bumper) has to quit the race, too.
But I can live with that because I do think the fact that after an incident in PCA you have to talk to the steward at least puts in some self-reflection and learning.
My car was half-destroyed, in another group, under a yellow flag when a driver froze when coming upon an incident. I would never expect $$, but there was no talk to this guy, no nothing from organizers except pity for HIS car, no concern for another person's health, either, by the "hitter." This driver will never be aware of what he did wrong nor learn.
The car that originally caused the situation also repeatedly had the same mechanical breakdown over and over with no repurcussions. In contrast, these are the type of situations PCA does address very well.
The major difference between club and pro has to be that we are "comrades" and while you want to win, you also would not want to jeopardize or cheat against your friend, hopefully.
PM
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11-16-2006, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Nordschleife
that this thread ever got started horrifies me. The day you step in a race car you should write off what ever it cost you.
Racing is a contact sport, 'racing incidents' occur. If some fwit smashes your car and you feel really bad about it, amuse everybody else and chase him round the paddock until you can catch with your handbag.
R+C
Racing is a contact sport, 'racing incidents' occur. If some fwit smashes your car and you feel really bad about it, amuse everybody else and chase him round the paddock until you can catch with your handbag.
R+C
